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Mar 7, 2014 7:17 AM  Disneyland Talk Land
 Best Post of the Day 3-7-14
Good morning! This day in Disney history, March 7th, 1997. The Pirates of the Caribbean attraction reopens in New Orleans square after being renovated.

In its original form,  Pirates contained a scene in which pirates were shown chasing women in circles and a "comical" reversal in which an overweight woman was seen chasing a pirate. When guests were offended by this depiction, Disney initially changed the woman chasing the pirate by having her try to hit him with a rolling pin. Then in 1997, this scene was changed so that the pirates pursued women holding pies, and the large woman is chasing the pirate with a stolen ham. However, the audio of the women's giggles while being chased remained despite complaints. Sometime after this, the audio was also removed.

chase

overweight lady chase

rolling pin


In addition, originally, one overweight pirate (sometimes known as the "Pooped Pirate"),
was shown exhausted from his pursuit of an unwilling teenaged female. He was shown boasting and waving a lady's lingerie while a woman peeked up from inside an oak barrel behind his back. As guests floated past and uttered suggestive dialogue, including: "It's sore I be to hoist me colors upon the likes of that shy little wench",  and "I be willing to share, I be".

pooped pirate

But that was too raunchy for Disney - the Pooped Pirate was changed to the gluttonous pirate- a rogue in search of food. Only a hungry pig to keep him company.

pig

The gluttonous pirates dialogue included lines such as: "Me belly be feeling like galleon with a load of treasure", and "I be looking for a fine pork loin, I be".  


The woman in the barrel was later replaced by a cat and then to a regular fat pirate holding the key and map in 2006 with Jack Sparrow in the barrel.

before and after

These modifications garnered criticism from longtime fans and some of the attraction's original Imagineers; in Jason Surrells' book: Pirates of the Caribbean: From the Magic Kingdom to the Movies, showwriter Francis Xavier "X" Atencio referred to these "softening" touches as "Boy Scouts of the Caribbean."

Take a look at the old version before the movie aspects and political correctness, from September 1990, not the highest quality, but you’ll be able to hear the soundtrack:



Do you prefer the current version of POTC with Jack, Jones and Barbosa?  The 1997 first PC version? Or perhaps the original 1967 one? Why?

Thanks for reading and watching! Hope you all have a fabulous Friday!

websites referenced:
thisdayindisneyhistory.com
youtube.com
deadmentellnotales.com
mousewait.com
davelandblog.blogspot.com

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Even though I was still a kid when the original things were in place, I still remember them and was really upset when they changed them later. I've always thought that the political correctness and women's groups got in the way of the point that this is what pirates were actually like. You can't change history. And as a kid, I didn't know that the fat pirate was saying suggestive things - I just knew he was looking for that girl. I didn't even realize she was a teenager. Despite the fact that I loved the first Pirates movie,I liked the ride better without the movie tie ins for a couple of reasons, not the least of which is that now everyone assumes the ride was based on the movie and not the other way around. But I tend to like things the way Walt made them... - DisneyOnesie  621.2 #329 8:08AM
I love what you have to say about this and I couldn't agree more. There are certain things that cannot be sugar-coated, and I believe it's important to portray history as it actually was--not alter it to appease a group of people. There is ALWAYS going to be someone in society who gets offended by something. History isn't always pretty: learn from it and move forward, but don't deny or sugar-coat it. I miss the old POTC in this regard; adding Jack Sparrow is a plus, though 😊 - apesandmonkeys  6523.5 #16 8:46AM
Ooh, nicely said @apesandmonkeys I agree - MickeyLumboCM  1347.5 #130 8:48AM
πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘@disneyonesie and apesandmonkeys πŸ‘πŸ‘ - goofydad909  1988.0 #80 12:34PM
All of this is why I treasure my recording of the original version! - ThatStarWarsKimberly  408.0 #551 2:07PM
Nicely put  DisneyOnesie ! 😘 - Duchess_SMK  6340.7 #18 2:12PM
Totally agree with you all... That's all I have to day about that  - BeatleMike  635.4 #316 4:46PM
I agree and wish the original would of been kept the same. It's part of history but people are always complaining no matter what. I love the movie but wished they would of kept the original.  - adventurerEnDisneylandia {AED}  1143.5 #155 4:47PM
Well said DisneyOnesie and apesandmonkeys. - potatohead25  704.0 #273 6:05PM
I agree with everything you said DO. - Tom  11116.2 #6 6:10PM
We'll said - mattc  265.0 #1209 6:47PM
I agree with you 100% - Superspacemountainfan  92.1 #3711 7:02PM
It's a great ride regardless of the changes made to it,but the Captain Jack at the end of the ride creeps me out big time. - bonedaddy909  1444.9 #117 7:47AM
😳He creeps you out? How come? πŸ˜‚ - Duchess_SMK  6340.7 #18 9:25AM
yah me too! for some reason his face is way creepier than the others.  - OhanaPhoto  5120.8 #24 9:36AM
I saw his skin come out of his neck once and yeah sometimes he looks like he had a stroke or something - missmimi90  2032.0 #76 9:44AM
the last jack need some acne wipes on his face it look oiley - pikarich  5229.5 #22 10:34AM
He is kinda creepy. I agree - PixiePirateMaid  345.5 #690 1:55PM
His neck opens up when he tilts his head back. It's all I see lol - missariel33  2115.5 #72 7:08PM
Definitely original. I'm not a big fan of PC crap. Oooh. Did I say that out loud?  πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚. Boy Scouts of the Caribbean. πŸ˜‚. That is funny!  I like the Jack additions just fine. But you can't match the original!  Thank you, Duchess!  And now I'd better get packing so I can see this in person tomorrow!  Tomorrow!  Yay! - MeridaFan  4243.7 #34 12:31PM
See, it is that loin cloth!πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ - RadiatorSprings4Ever  1566.1 #107 12:54PM
Hahahaha! πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ 😘 - MeridaFan  4243.7 #34 3:04PM
πŸ‘πŸ‘ - PrincessDuckie  904.9 #202 10:01AM
Another amazing post! I would have liked to experience the original version in person. I feel like it's kind of evolutionary with the changes but I personally see nothing majorly offensive about it. I do however, have a Jack Sparrow obsession so there's that LOL. Thank you for doing these. Love reading them. - missmimi90  2032.0 #76 7:40AM
Thank you kindly sweet lady! I too have a bit of a Jack obsession...😊 thanks for putting in your 2cents. 😘 - Duchess_SMK  6340.7 #18 9:27AM
Great info. Thanks for sharing! - WishIWereThere  298.3 #930 7:43AM
Thank you! POTC is our favorite! I like all three versions because each holds a special memory for me. - 4fansofDland  30.6 #5931 7:43AM
I personally would love if they would change it back but my mini will be really upset with me for saying so because she is obsessed with Jack and all the Pirate movies right now. I'm just traditional and I like things on the older attractions to stay the same. I do love the movies but miss the attraction before it was changed. - TrampsLady  1641.8 #102 7:59AM
i really enjoyed this post!!! thanks for sharing! have a great weekend! - OhanaPhoto  5120.8 #24 8:42AM
- apesandmonkeys  6523.5 #16 8:47AM
😍😍 - APirateslifeforme31  170.3 #2407 8:52AM
A while back, someone posted the story behind the POTC. It was about falling into the old pirates dream. Does anyone remember that? Whom ever posted that, could you please post it agin. Thanks  - guestcontrolrope1  86.1 #3816 9:04AM
I believe it was CM_Shadowgamer. - apesandmonkeys  6523.5 #16 9:08AM
I can bump it if you want, guestcontrolrope1 - CM_Shadowgamer  2515.9 #55 11:24AM
Bumped it back up for you guestcontrolrope1 - CM_Shadowgamer  2515.9 #55 12:47PM
Another super spectacularly AWESOME post @Duchess_SMK!!!  I personally like the original version and still remember it in my head when I ride the current version!  I was pretty upset when they added the "food chasing" portion and other PC aspects.  When I was a child, I had no idea what all those references meant!!!  I do love me some Jack Sparrow, though, and I dig the Davey Jones fog apparition thingie of the current version!  I do miss the old pirate who was replaced by Capt. Barbosa on the ship, since I always thought it was cool how his hat cast a mickey head shaped shadow on the sail!  This must have taken you a long time to put together, so thanks again for doing these posts!!!  They just keep getting better (no pressure!) :0)  - zenderella  408.9 #549 9:08AM
A classic attraction love it !!! - snakeinmyboot40  394.0 #571 9:24AM
Our first visit ever to Disneyland was April 1997 so we didn't know anything was different. It immediately became or favorite attraction. We like the updates with Jack but I miss the  skeletons at the end trying to get their gold up the hill.  - imjustsayin111  247.8 #1382 9:37AM
Hi Ho,. I mean YoHo YoHo - ChristopherRobin661  274.0 #1125 9:47AM
I might be a purest as I miss the original, but I'm starting to like the newest version as it has become a favorite of my minis.... - BombFrogFormerCM  1015.8 #183 10:11AM
one of the best attractions in the park and great storyline as described by cm_shadowgamer. no mater the changes the attaction is still great. a few hidden mickeys including one on a shield in the last scene with the barrel gunfighting scene.there is a Hidden Goofy ROCK and is listed on the hidden mickey book.This is one of the least favorite ride to do a walk off for cm's and will do everything they can to restart the ride otherwise somebodys going in the water to push boats to shore.no matter how long the line the ride loads pretty quick and wall pics of pirates that do have stories in real life are on the line and lets not forget the hmacif brick tap or the famous dinner  incident.a great feature is having the blue bayou restaurant in view to eat ,one of very few that has the an attraction at any disney theme park. one last fact i learned from another , you are underground after the main drop but engineer wanted to make sure you knew you are underground , they build tree brances that come out from the ceiling down to give the illusion of being underground, after the main drop look to left and you will see them, you can see more when you exit the haunted mansion as well - pikarich  5229.5 #22 10:47AM
Another great post. Thank you. I love the ride reguardless, but if I had to choose I would say the original ride, simply because it is the first one I ever saw. - goofydad909  1988.0 #80 11:17AM
One of my fave attractions...thanks for the awesome post. Β I really enjoyed it!! Β I remember the 'old' version from the 1990s and never found it offensive. I do enjoy the captain jack additions!  😍😍 - MinnieMousewife  914.1 #201 12:00PM
Thank you so much for the awesome post and loved the video. This was always my favorite ride as a kid and one of my favorite parts was the pirates chasing the ladies. I don't know why I thought this was funny as a kid especially the lady chasing the pirate. I guess kids don't care whether it's PC or not they just know it's fun. But I think the addition of Jack Sparrow helps new fans relate the ride to the movies so it was a natural evolution. - leafs17  130.3 #3042 1:04PM
I heard they were going to change it to where olaf the snowman is chasing the women around with a martini glass singing lets hang out and work up a sweat in summer. - madsdad  1868.2 #92 1:38PM
πŸ˜‚πŸ˜³πŸ˜‚ nick!  - Duchess_SMK  6340.7 #18 4:55PM
Love this! Thank you. My favorite is the original version, but I do love the mist w/Davy Jones effect added later. - GotMouse_aka_JRoseAllister  91.0 #3728 2:02PM
Hard to believe violence is better than amorous intent.  - Midasgold  633.3 #318 3:37PM
Absolutely! We can blow alien heads off but NO πŸ™…πŸ’πŸ˜³πŸ˜‚ - RadiatorSprings4Ever  1566.1 #107 3:45PM
Wow!  My first visit ever was only a few months before the changes.  I loved the old, non-PC stuff, especially the chase scenes.  I still get confused by the gluttoneous pirate; it doesn't fit, in my opinion.  However, I really do like most of the Jack Sparrow additions.  Thanks @Duchess_SMK! - TiggersAndTinks  170.9 #2393 3:48PM
There is always room for change as long that dont change it completely - Chumash28  1207.7 #143 3:59PM
Wasn't there a pirate trying to steal a huge bag of treasure toward the end when the boat is being carried up? Thank you for sharing. I was the very last guest before they closed the ride to add Jack. I felt special. I even dressed like a pirate before disney bounding was popular. - adventurerEnDisneylandia {AED}  1143.5 #155 4:50PM
I remember that final cave where Jack is now being dark with different sets of glowing eyes but maybe I am imagining it? - DisneyOnesie  621.2 #329 4:55PM
Weren't the glowing eyes on BTMRR? - HasAnyoneSeenMyGlassSlipper  690.8 #286 4:58PM
Who could verify this? Hmmm - adventurerEnDisneylandia {AED}  1143.5 #155 5:01PM
There were two skeletons pushing a bag of treasure at the end before they added Jack. I miss them! - Atora  2702.2 #47 5:32PM
I remembered it was a fat pirate πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ - adventurerEnDisneylandia {AED}  1143.5 #155 6:02PM
Maybe they were fat skeletons adventurerEnDisneylandia {AED} πŸ˜‚ and HasAnyoneSeenMyGlassSlipper there were there too, you are right. And they were probably never on Pirates and I am crossing my rides! Haha! - DisneyOnesie  621.2 #329 6:36PM
DisneyOnesie they very well could have been on pirates as well. I had quite a long Disney hiatus from '94-'08, so I'm not sure. - HasAnyoneSeenMyGlassSlipper  690.8 #286 6:39PM
-wingX-WingNikki, yes, yes! You could hear him pushing I believe... - adventurerEnDisneylandia {AED}  1143.5 #155 8:54PM
Best. Attraction. Ever! - DisneyDavidEMT  2626.6 #50 9:12PM
Thanks for the great post.  I really enjoyed reading everyones posts.  I personally liked to original version of POTC. - everm09  15.0 #8611 9:23PM
This is an awesome post and I love reading everyone's reasons for their favorite versions. Personally, I love the original because of all the memories it brings back. Makes me feel old when I can say, "I remember when...." But that's part of the nostalgia and magic! - shortyrock760  34.8 #5554 7:40AM
I have to agree that it was disappointing when they made the changes and love remembering it the old way as a kid. - sallen848  1.5 #63448 9:43AM

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