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Mar 7, 2013 9:14 AM  Disneyland Talk Land
Good morning! This day in Disney history, March 7th,1997. Pirates of the Caribbean reopens after being renovated. In its original form, the Disneyland attraction contained a scene in which pirates were shown chasing women in circles. Along a "comical" reversal in which an overweight woman was seen chasing a pirate. When guests were offended by this depiction, Disney initially changed the woman chasing the pirate by having her try to hit him w/a rolling pin. In 1997, this scene was changed so that the pirates pursued women holding pies, & the large woman is chasing a pirate w/a stolen ham. However, the audio of the women's giggles while being chased remained despite complaints. Sometime after this the audio was also removed. In addition, originally, one overweight pirate (sometimes known as the "Pooped Pirate", pictured below) was shown exhausted from his pursuit of an unwilling teenaged female. He brandished a petticoat as guests floated past & uttered suggestive dialogue, including: "It's sore I be to hoist me colors upon the likes of that shy little wench", & "I be willing to share, I be". Behind him, the woman he had been pursuing would anxiously peer out from her hiding place inside a barrel. In the refurbishment, the "Pooped Pirate" was recast as the Gluttonous Pirate, a rogue in search of food. His dialogue included lines such as: "Me belly be feeling like galleon w/a load of treasure", & "I be looking for a fine pork loin, I be". The woman hiding in the barrel was replaced by a cat. Do you prefer the current version of POTC w/Jack, Jones & Barbosa? Or do you miss the 1997 version? Or perhaps the original 1967 one? Why?

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My mom's favorite ride! She never saw the addition of Captain Jack but she did see the change that Lilsterner mentioned....and was not happy! Every time I ride POTC my thoughts turn to how much fun she had on it...the drops were as close to a thrill ride that she ever wanted to go on. I have to admit I usually get misty eyed riding it as I pretend she is sitting next to me. - Gia  802.0 #208 10:02AM
Awe! Again with a super sweet story! πŸ˜‰ My favorite attraction as well! - Duchess_SMK  6005.8 #15 10:35AM
😊😊😘 - DisneyFanZoe  1209.4 #129 10:46AM
So sweet. - LisaMouse7531  410.1 #498 12:53PM
What a wonderful memory - that-goofy-girl  5.8 #15137 7:39PM
I miss the original scene with the women being chased. That was more realistic! When the change was made to chasing food I was surprised at the addition of the overweight woman chasing the ham. I thought it was funny that there was a change to be PC in one aspect but just became as stereotypical in another one. I miss the funny historical aspect of the original but I don't mind the addition of Jack, Barbosa, and Davey Jones. - LilSterner  4915.5 #19 9:22AM
My thoughts exactly lol - rbeezy  703.0 #243 9:41AM
I also liked the women chasing the men and thought it weird at the time of why it was changed. It wasn't until I got older I realized why it was changed, I liked it the old way since that was just a pirates life to me! - pixiedreamer  149.8 #2622 9:50AM
Politically correct wins again. πŸ˜” - Duchess_SMK  6005.8 #15 10:13AM
Thanks for typing that out for me. Agree with everything. Funny>fake PC. As a kid I thought the chase was the funniest part. - Westcoast  136.4 #2842 11:32AM
I feel the same way! - AKMouse  472.4 #414 4:01PM
I agree. I loved the humor of the original and every time I go through I miss it in that section. I don't miss the women giggling. - Zipadeedoodah  215.1 #1720 7:55PM
Original all the way, baby! - MeridaFan  3530.3 #36 9:17AM
☺ Ok, fair, but why? - Duchess_SMK  6005.8 #15 9:37AM
It's what I grew up with. Every time I go by that one part, I can still picture the pirate holding the slipper and veil, and see the girl popping out of the barrel with the candle. That said, I also love the Jack Sparrow additions! πŸ˜„ So at least they made a good swap there. - MeridaFan  3530.3 #36 9:40AM
I'll never complain about Jack being there either but yes, the original had more character to me! - Duchess_SMK  6005.8 #15 10:21AM
Since I didn't go on the attraction until about 2002ish, I never saw the original. But, after watching those DL sing-a-long videos, I always feared that the hanging barrels at the end were going to explode (like in the videos), but realized that it was just for TV. - BaseballMickey_CM  6970.6 #9 10:10AM
I love the original and grew up with it. I do however like the integration of Jack Sparrow, Barbosa & DJ. This was well done! Thank you Duchess! - ShariRenee  6202.5 #14 10:23AM
I miss the chase scenes but I enjoy the Jack /Barbosa additions. I really enjoy "This Day in Disney History" posts, Thank you! - GrumpyPirateDad  1844.6 #78 10:35AM
Especially when I can visit the attraction or topic of the history. Thanks again for sharing - GrumpyPirateDad  1844.6 #78 8:13PM
It didn't like when they changed it, but do like it be since the added Sparrow, and Barbosa . Cool pic by the way! - 7mouskedoodles  361.0 #590 10:49AM
Thanks, that's a lot of history. - GoofyJoe  1906.6 #74 11:00AM
I liked the original version. I never understood why they felt a need to be politically correct in some areas, but not in others, ie...auctioning off rope bound women. Puzzling. However, I do like the newest version with all the character additions. - DisneyGrandma  854.3 #195 11:02AM
Excellent point! - MeridaFan  3530.3 #36 3:20PM
Agreed - Plumiegirl  8860.4 #3 7:42PM
Every time I ride I miss the original one. I don't understand the change and never will. I also remember at the end of the ride while going back up, there was a pirate trying to steal a bag of treasure. - adventurerEnDisneylandia {AED}  906.7 #181 11:02AM
I liked the original and was sad they gave in to PC pressure. The Jack Sparrow addition feels commercial to me. I miss the original battle scene. - happiestplace  151.0 #2603 11:10AM
I loved the old version. I'm not a huge fan of the newer one. My favorite part is Carlos.. and the red head of course lol - fairyshley  479.8 #406 11:41AM
I prefer the pre 97 version. This was my dads favorite ride and he always had a big smile when riding POTC. He passed away in 97 so he never saw the refurb. Thanks for this post πŸ‘ - philliprocks  1115.2 #144 12:13PM
Thanks for the great information! I have that scene of the young woman popping up out of the barrel in my head now. I forgot about that scene. I liked the pre 97 version of pirates and personally I didn't notice the dialog in that scene because there was so much going on. - leftmyheartinwonderland  359.9 #593 12:46PM
I always found it hysterical that they got rid of this scene but left in the women being auctioned off....You'd think that is a lot more offensive than being chased around - Dave  12727.7 #2 12:52PM
We live in a funny world. - adventurerEnDisneylandia {AED}  906.7 #181 12:56PM
I guess paid is better than free. - madsdad  1847.2 #77 1:12PM
exactly - cesium55  531.6 #361 1:30PM
At 6 years old I clearly remember the original pirates chasing the wenches ... 25 years later I still miss the original... Thank u for the history facts on this ride! 😊 - MaliceInWonderland  37.0 #5066 1:03PM
Love disney history. Thanks for sharing. - Splashmountgirl  337.1 #662 1:21PM
Wonderful history! I like this newest version not a big fan of assault - Tealtownfan  1015.5 #167 2:55PM
I don't like the new additions to POTC, and was really bummed the first time I rode it and saw Captain Jack. I get it, and I understand why they did it, but if I had my way, they would never really change anything in the Disney parks...just expand it :) - CountryBearTrixie  210.8 #1782 4:12PM
i think people that got offended are dumb, you cant just go back and change history and what happened in those times, that's how things were, men chased girls, i havent seen that change still in these times, people are too sensative and need to grow a harder shell, you cant live under your protective shell forever - zombiesix  260.4 #1177 6:22PM
This day in history has to be one of my faves so far! Thank you for posting this. POTC is my favorite attraction since I could remember! Love everything about it including all of its history!! :) - MagicalLand  414.2 #493 7:30PM
This was my dad's FAVORITE ride! He had to go on it every single time we were there! The kids still mention something funny he said or did on this ride, every time we ride it now! It will always remind me of him!! Thanks for sharing this... It made me smile! - MrsPrinceCharming 8:19PM
Amazing as usual!! I had no idea about all the switches. How times change. I love the tubby guy who's all full and glutinous! Thanks for the history lesson as always 😘 - CourtyAstroBlisters  727.8 #234 8:50PM
As always Duchess_SMK your This Day in History posts are genius! I like the way they added Captain Jack and company! They did it without being overwhelming. But all in all I liked the original, it depicted they way I thought pirates would act! Aarrgghhh!βš“ - Boundin  608.3 #303 8:52PM
Thanks, I LOVE your history posts!! I have the entire Pirates soundtrack before 1997 with the old, "sore I be..." So that explains it, thanks! - adisneyfamily  864.8 #194 9:21AM
Oh good! So happy you enjoy these! Happy to have solved that puzzle for you. 😘 - Duchess_SMK  6005.8 #15 9:35AM
I'd enjoy his suggestive comments. - madsdad  1847.2 #77 9:21AM
For some reason this doesn't surprise me. πŸ˜‚ - Duchess_SMK  6005.8 #15 9:24AM
I would love if they kept it all! - MomWithAJuiceBoxBuzz  1165.7 #135 9:28AM
Kept all the original? - Duchess_SMK  6005.8 #15 9:50AM
I grew up with the original from 1967. I miss several parts of this attraction that have been changed over the years. I'm sure that Duchess will provide the details of those later this month when we have another awesome Disney History from her... I will say that, true to Disney's high quality art and imagination, the renovation is a very nice upgrade. Thank you SMK for this Disney History and for clearing up the sometimes misunderstood facts about the reasons for the changes on this great attraction. - IMissDisney  1205.7 #130 9:43AM
The anniversary is coming! Very excited. ::giggles:: thanks for the support as as always my friend! - Duchess_SMK  6005.8 #15 10:51AM
I like the original. It fits historically but it wasn't until recently when I listened to the soundtrack that I noticed the "Hoist me colors" line and actually know what he's talking about. Oh my! - cesium55  531.6 #361 9:46AM
πŸ˜³πŸ˜πŸ™ˆ - Duchess_SMK  6005.8 #15 11:16AM
The original just captured the "pirate life" it was a classic. It's sad how people let a ride offend them instead of enjoying it for what it was made for "fun" - justinschu4  36.0 #5117 9:47AM
Can never make everyone happy I suppose...::shrug:: - Duchess_SMK  6005.8 #15 4:15PM
I will never understand the fascination with pirates in general. People do understand what a pirate is right? Murderer and thief and many other unmentionables. I mean why is it ok to have women tied up and auctioned off to the highest bidder but people thought those other things were offensive? - dolewhipkarlita  80.7 #3776 3:05PM
I don't think we think of that part of a pirate. But the freedom they had, the adventure! Treasure hunting, being on the open seas! We try and be positive, and look for the best in people. That includes pirates. - LilMissPixie84  309.3 #788 3:13PM
The pirates depicted in Disney's classic stories (like Peter Pan and Treasure Island) are shown as "bad guys", however these are kid stories. Adventure and freedom are emphasized over the more seedy side of piracy. Pirates of the Caribbean has been a wonderful and fun attraction for almost 50 years! Any kid will tell you how cool it is. - IMissDisney  1205.7 #130 3:43PM
I have also thought that! I remember being like geez. This is kind of intense. The women are crying as they're basically sold into slavery, but I also agree with mypark and LMSP. I think disney was shooin for The pirates that had adventure. However, the ride more depicts drunke'n ported who are stealing and selling women. I think you both bring up really valid points. We also have to remember that when This ride was created political correctness was not nearly as popular or enforced as it is today. - BellesLibrary  405.0 #507 4:08PM

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I will for the 5k, will be there Thursday afternoon till Friday noon. - Sleepingbeautysmom  304.5 #822 8:17AM


 
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Congrats to all! - jacdanfan  8684.4 #5 5:48AM
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DISNEYLAND PARK:

Peter Pan closed through July 1
Innoventions closed March 31-September 30


DISNEY CALIFORNIA ADVENTURE:

Luigi's Flying Tires closed through Dec 1
 

Were visiting during the diamond celebration.  I'm so excited because all of our favorite rides will be open! - Dsc1983  16.2 #7516 10:53PM
Awesome! Can't wait! - PrincessDaisy  307.7 #805 8:33AM
I have yet to get on Luigi's Flying Tires. Looking forward to riding it this Dec. are any changes going to be made? - esvd  36.9 #5070 6:49PM
I read they are redoing the entire ride. - Lelundrial  561.0 #333 8:29AM
It's not coming back. They are changing to a different attraction. - missmimi90  1880.9 #76 8:28PM
I can't wait to see what's happening at Innoventions.  - MonorailLover1959  593.6 #313 5:55PM

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Didn't know there was one. Yay - TrueFromOzLovesDisney  472.6 #413 4:20PM

Disneyland unFORECAST (BETA) is here! Top MouseWaiters giving you the rundown of what's happening at the Disneyland Resort. The unFORECAST now has its own page on the web www.unFORECAST.com

unFORECAST for the week of June 1, 2015

This Friday marks the first day of the SoCal Select blockouts (that last through the end of Summer). Expect decent crowds this week--our Historical Crowd Index shows high-70s. The Parks are on late hours through the end of Summer and have selectively extended hours in DCA (Sunday and tonight). Things should ramp up on Friday and it should be a busy weekend. We are still at pre-Summer crowd levels, so now is the time to go if you want to beat the big crowds this Summer. Watch MouseWait for real-time Crowd Index updates as the Resort becomes unpredictable this time of year. - Admin Jun 1, 2015 3:19PM



We have always noticed that Saturdays are better than Sundays! We always come on the weekend and say we want to leave at dinner time on Sunday, but always leave by 11-12 because there are so many people. We love Saturday!! - 1Princess3Princes  398.5 #523 5:39PM
I agree. I think it has to do with most passes being blocked - PoohSizedGuy  18.5 #7011 11:53PM
I love these posts!  I do have a question/request/suggestion...is there a way to only show the 3-4 most recent posts?  It's a lot to scroll through. @@Admin - TiggersAndTinks  124.6 #3018 5:08AM
I second this. The info is great to have, but it's too long.  - 1HitchhikingGhost  228.2 #1552 5:04PM
Thanks for these updates. I love them!  - Dizkid  364.2 #581 6:07PM
It's Dance the Magic this weekend-always adds to the crowds too!!! - TinkerSchelle  1524.1 #99 8:23PM
What is dance the magic?? - bks4lou  183.6 #2119 4:40PM
Dance studios sign up and dancers come and do a little "pre-parade" along the route. It's cute ;) - TinkerSchelle  1524.1 #99 1:05PM
@bks4lou sorry-I just saw this question ;) - TinkerSchelle  1524.1 #99 1:06PM
thank you. No worries. I just figured out how to find my old comments to see replies :)  - bks4lou  183.6 #2119 8:21PM
I'll sport my hotpants.  - Butterlina  1525.4 #98 11:54PM
This is always fun - MickeyLumboCM  1011.8 #169 4:21AM
we went when I was younger, had a BLAST! - Malefitiff  8.9 #10744 4:03PM

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Wow... I got some catching up to do...lol - evilemohand  668.8 #265 8:47PM
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thanks admin - Fantasmicfan1  1275.2 #118 9:42PM
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Cool admin. Hope I do better than the first one. Hope people that enter will be ready to play and the tournament moves along better - Goofytom  1135.2 #140 6:41PM
I will announce the December tournament date this week. - Admin 11:58PM
Can't wait! - sawman911  670.5 #263 6:30PM
I have the app so if anyone wants to play a game with me :-) - nelcamp90  32.3 #5352 7:12PM
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There should be a droid version of this. I. would love to play  - bryanjung1997  1.1 #65513 2:19PM

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