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Mar 7, 2013 9:14 AM  Disneyland Talk Land
Good morning! This day in Disney history, March 7th,1997. Pirates of the Caribbean reopens after being renovated. In its original form, the Disneyland attraction contained a scene in which pirates were shown chasing women in circles. Along a "comical" reversal in which an overweight woman was seen chasing a pirate. When guests were offended by this depiction, Disney initially changed the woman chasing the pirate by having her try to hit him w/a rolling pin. In 1997, this scene was changed so that the pirates pursued women holding pies, & the large woman is chasing a pirate w/a stolen ham. However, the audio of the women's giggles while being chased remained despite complaints. Sometime after this the audio was also removed. In addition, originally, one overweight pirate (sometimes known as the "Pooped Pirate", pictured below) was shown exhausted from his pursuit of an unwilling teenaged female. He brandished a petticoat as guests floated past & uttered suggestive dialogue, including: "It's sore I be to hoist me colors upon the likes of that shy little wench", & "I be willing to share, I be". Behind him, the woman he had been pursuing would anxiously peer out from her hiding place inside a barrel. In the refurbishment, the "Pooped Pirate" was recast as the Gluttonous Pirate, a rogue in search of food. His dialogue included lines such as: "Me belly be feeling like galleon w/a load of treasure", & "I be looking for a fine pork loin, I be". The woman hiding in the barrel was replaced by a cat. Do you prefer the current version of POTC w/Jack, Jones & Barbosa? Or do you miss the 1997 version? Or perhaps the original 1967 one? Why?

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My mom's favorite ride! She never saw the addition of Captain Jack but she did see the change that Lilsterner mentioned....and was not happy! Every time I ride POTC my thoughts turn to how much fun she had on it...the drops were as close to a thrill ride that she ever wanted to go on. I have to admit I usually get misty eyed riding it as I pretend she is sitting next to me. - Gia  802.0 #231 10:02AM
Awe! Again with a super sweet story! πŸ˜‰ My favorite attraction as well! - Duchess_SMK  6349.3 #18 10:35AM
😊😊😘 - DisneyFanZoe  1249.3 #136 10:46AM
So sweet. - LisaMouse7531  410.1 #544 12:53PM
What a wonderful memory - that-goofy-girl  5.8 #16626 7:39PM
I miss the original scene with the women being chased. That was more realistic! When the change was made to chasing food I was surprised at the addition of the overweight woman chasing the ham. I thought it was funny that there was a change to be PC in one aspect but just became as stereotypical in another one. I miss the funny historical aspect of the original but I don't mind the addition of Jack, Barbosa, and Davey Jones. - LilSterner  5519.6 #20 9:22AM
My thoughts exactly lol - rbeezy  703.0 #276 9:41AM
I also liked the women chasing the men and thought it weird at the time of why it was changed. It wasn't until I got older I realized why it was changed, I liked it the old way since that was just a pirates life to me! - pixiedreamer  219.7 #1740 9:50AM
Politically correct wins again. πŸ˜” - Duchess_SMK  6349.3 #18 10:13AM
Thanks for typing that out for me. Agree with everything. Funny>fake PC. As a kid I thought the chase was the funniest part. - Westcoast  174.6 #2327 11:32AM
I feel the same way! - AKMouse  490.6 #435 4:01PM
I agree. I loved the humor of the original and every time I go through I miss it in that section. I don't miss the women giggling. - Zipadeedoodah  215.5 #1797 7:55PM
Original all the way, baby! - MeridaFan  4243.7 #35 9:17AM
☺ Ok, fair, but why? - Duchess_SMK  6349.3 #18 9:37AM
It's what I grew up with. Every time I go by that one part, I can still picture the pirate holding the slipper and veil, and see the girl popping out of the barrel with the candle. That said, I also love the Jack Sparrow additions! πŸ˜„ So at least they made a good swap there. - MeridaFan  4243.7 #35 9:40AM
I'll never complain about Jack being there either but yes, the original had more character to me! - Duchess_SMK  6349.3 #18 10:21AM
Since I didn't go on the attraction until about 2002ish, I never saw the original. But, after watching those DL sing-a-long videos, I always feared that the hanging barrels at the end were going to explode (like in the videos), but realized that it was just for TV. - BaseballMickey_CM  7633.7 #11 10:10AM
I love the original and grew up with it. I do however like the integration of Jack Sparrow, Barbosa & DJ. This was well done! Thank you Duchess! - ShariRenee  8811.1 #9 10:23AM
I miss the chase scenes but I enjoy the Jack /Barbosa additions. I really enjoy "This Day in Disney History" posts, Thank you! - GrumpyPirateDad  1936.2 #86 10:35AM
Especially when I can visit the attraction or topic of the history. Thanks again for sharing - GrumpyPirateDad  1936.2 #86 8:13PM
It didn't like when they changed it, but do like it be since the added Sparrow, and Barbosa . Cool pic by the way! - 7mouskedoodles  371.6 #613 10:49AM
Thanks, that's a lot of history. - GoofyJoe  1906.6 #87 11:00AM
I liked the original version. I never understood why they felt a need to be politically correct in some areas, but not in others, ie...auctioning off rope bound women. Puzzling. However, I do like the newest version with all the character additions. - DisneyGrandma  877.3 #211 11:02AM
Excellent point! - MeridaFan  4243.7 #35 3:20PM
Agreed - Plumiegirl  10191.8 #8 7:42PM
Every time I ride I miss the original one. I don't understand the change and never will. I also remember at the end of the ride while going back up, there was a pirate trying to steal a bag of treasure. - adventurerEnDisneylandia {AED}  1143.5 #158 11:02AM
I liked the original and was sad they gave in to PC pressure. The Jack Sparrow addition feels commercial to me. I miss the original battle scene. - happiestplace  276.7 #1093 11:10AM
I loved the old version. I'm not a huge fan of the newer one. My favorite part is Carlos.. and the red head of course lol - fairyshley  479.8 #444 11:41AM
I prefer the pre 97 version. This was my dads favorite ride and he always had a big smile when riding POTC. He passed away in 97 so he never saw the refurb. Thanks for this post πŸ‘ - philliprocks  1321.0 #132 12:13PM
Thanks for the great information! I have that scene of the young woman popping up out of the barrel in my head now. I forgot about that scene. I liked the pre 97 version of pirates and personally I didn't notice the dialog in that scene because there was so much going on. - leftmyheartinwonderland  359.9 #644 12:46PM
I always found it hysterical that they got rid of this scene but left in the women being auctioned off....You'd think that is a lot more offensive than being chased around - Dave  13532.7 #2 12:52PM
We live in a funny world. - adventurerEnDisneylandia {AED}  1143.5 #158 12:56PM
I guess paid is better than free. - madsdad  1868.2 #92 1:12PM
exactly - cesium55  531.8 #391 1:30PM
At 6 years old I clearly remember the original pirates chasing the wenches ... 25 years later I still miss the original... Thank u for the history facts on this ride! 😊 - MaliceInWonderland  38.0 #5335 1:03PM
Love disney history. Thanks for sharing. - Splashmountgirl  337.1 #718 1:21PM
Wonderful history! I like this newest version not a big fan of assault - Tealtownfan  1015.6 #186 2:55PM
I don't like the new additions to POTC, and was really bummed the first time I rode it and saw Captain Jack. I get it, and I understand why they did it, but if I had my way, they would never really change anything in the Disney parks...just expand it :) - CountryBearTrixie  210.8 #1866 4:12PM
i think people that got offended are dumb, you cant just go back and change history and what happened in those times, that's how things were, men chased girls, i havent seen that change still in these times, people are too sensative and need to grow a harder shell, you cant live under your protective shell forever - zombiesix  260.4 #1254 6:22PM
This day in history has to be one of my faves so far! Thank you for posting this. POTC is my favorite attraction since I could remember! Love everything about it including all of its history!! :) - MagicalLand  414.2 #537 7:30PM
This was my dad's FAVORITE ride! He had to go on it every single time we were there! The kids still mention something funny he said or did on this ride, every time we ride it now! It will always remind me of him!! Thanks for sharing this... It made me smile! - MrsPrinceCharming 8:19PM
Amazing as usual!! I had no idea about all the switches. How times change. I love the tubby guy who's all full and glutinous! Thanks for the history lesson as always 😘 - CourtyAstroBlisters  784.1 #236 8:50PM
As always Duchess_SMK your This Day in History posts are genius! I like the way they added Captain Jack and company! They did it without being overwhelming. But all in all I liked the original, it depicted they way I thought pirates would act! Aarrgghhh!βš“ - Boundin  715.1 #272 8:52PM
Thanks, I LOVE your history posts!! I have the entire Pirates soundtrack before 1997 with the old, "sore I be..." So that explains it, thanks! - adisneyfamily  1003.9 #189 9:21AM
Oh good! So happy you enjoy these! Happy to have solved that puzzle for you. 😘 - Duchess_SMK  6349.3 #18 9:35AM
I'd enjoy his suggestive comments. - madsdad  1868.2 #92 9:21AM
For some reason this doesn't surprise me. πŸ˜‚ - Duchess_SMK  6349.3 #18 9:24AM
I would love if they kept it all! - MomWithAJuiceBoxBuzz  1190.7 #147 9:28AM
Kept all the original? - Duchess_SMK  6349.3 #18 9:50AM
I grew up with the original from 1967. I miss several parts of this attraction that have been changed over the years. I'm sure that Duchess will provide the details of those later this month when we have another awesome Disney History from her... I will say that, true to Disney's high quality art and imagination, the renovation is a very nice upgrade. Thank you SMK for this Disney History and for clearing up the sometimes misunderstood facts about the reasons for the changes on this great attraction. - IMissDisney  1205.7 #144 9:43AM
The anniversary is coming! Very excited. ::giggles:: thanks for the support as as always my friend! - Duchess_SMK  6349.3 #18 10:51AM
I like the original. It fits historically but it wasn't until recently when I listened to the soundtrack that I noticed the "Hoist me colors" line and actually know what he's talking about. Oh my! - cesium55  531.8 #391 9:46AM
πŸ˜³πŸ˜πŸ™ˆ - Duchess_SMK  6349.3 #18 11:16AM
The original just captured the "pirate life" it was a classic. It's sad how people let a ride offend them instead of enjoying it for what it was made for "fun" - justinschu4  39.3 #5260 9:47AM
Can never make everyone happy I suppose...::shrug:: - Duchess_SMK  6349.3 #18 4:15PM
I will never understand the fascination with pirates in general. People do understand what a pirate is right? Murderer and thief and many other unmentionables. I mean why is it ok to have women tied up and auctioned off to the highest bidder but people thought those other things were offensive? - dolewhipkarlita  94.4 #3681 3:05PM
I don't think we think of that part of a pirate. But the freedom they had, the adventure! Treasure hunting, being on the open seas! We try and be positive, and look for the best in people. That includes pirates. - LilMissPixie84  309.5 #861 3:13PM
The pirates depicted in Disney's classic stories (like Peter Pan and Treasure Island) are shown as "bad guys", however these are kid stories. Adventure and freedom are emphasized over the more seedy side of piracy. Pirates of the Caribbean has been a wonderful and fun attraction for almost 50 years! Any kid will tell you how cool it is. - IMissDisney  1205.7 #144 3:43PM
I have also thought that! I remember being like geez. This is kind of intense. The women are crying as they're basically sold into slavery, but I also agree with mypark and LMSP. I think disney was shooin for The pirates that had adventure. However, the ride more depicts drunke'n ported who are stealing and selling women. I think you both bring up really valid points. We also have to remember that when This ride was created political correctness was not nearly as popular or enforced as it is today. - BellesLibrary  411.9 #539 4:08PM

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Hey I'm finally on this list πŸ˜„πŸ‘πŸŽ‰ - Sweet_Irish_Cream  4409.0 #32 10:39PM
Your always on the list!!! πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚list of what I don't know😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝. Jk - Fantasmicfan1  1538.2 #111 12:34PM
Fantasmicfan1 I just read that in the voice of Rodney Dangerfield from Back to School! - KennyV  1154.6 #157 3:48PM
Love seeing everyone's pictures from Disneyland !! I know, we always have a good time :) - Lyssa2012  196.1 #2047 11:22PM
i am so glad i got to experience it,  but did not have to go thru it! - MsTikiMermadam  1065.1 #172 5:56AM
Here! Yay! - LadyTrampTraveler8  48.3 #0 10:36AM
My First time making this list! THANK YOU! Please comment and give me tips as only Mouse Waiters can!! - sunvalgifts  31.8 #5820 2:11PM

MouseWait COUNTDOWN for iOS is here! Countdown the days to your next Disneyland or Disney World trip with our images OR your pics! Your Countdown also displays on Apple Watch and is beautiful on iPhone 6 screens. Secure the discounted launch price for a limited time.

I have the countdown and I love it! - tree320  0.6 #0 9:26AM
Just got it! - Dizkid  458.0 #477 12:29PM
I need to get this  - MisSingAlong  99.3 #0 1:11AM
Doesn't everyone have a countdown clock on the top of one of their pinball machines?  Unfortunately mine is blank because our DL trip was weeks ago :( - awhittle  0.0 #127193 10:15AM
That just means it's time to start planning! πŸ˜€ - AngiMouse  81.6 #3919 1:02PM

Here are the Weekly Top 10 TRIVILATOR Players. Find people to play here. Play Disneyland Trivia with your friends on iOS. Play on any device with our new web version here.

1. DisneyMakesMeSmile
12.36

2. Goofytom
7.91

3. DisneyMom13
3.18

4. richiii3
0.66

5. beentoall
0.66

6. mamabeam
0.61

7. Dolewhipped
0.57

8. Moog
0.28

9. jalensmommy
0.19

10. otilegna
0.12

 

Yay @@Moog!!!! So great!  πŸ˜ - valj84DisneyDeppAddict  292.5 #961 6:28PM
You sweet thing!  You crack me up!  I'm merely an apprentice being schooled by @@Tom!! - Moog  94.4 #3682 11:33AM
πŸ‘‹β€οΈ - Tom  11229.1 #6 11:47AM
Wtg @@DisneyMakesMeSmile and @@Moog ;) - otilegna  2680.9 #48 7:41PM
A major compliment from someone who hands me my you know what every game, @@otilegna 😜!!! - Moog  94.4 #3682 8:05PM
Yay !!!  - otilegna  2680.9 #48 9:42AM
Any tips on how to keep a game going?  Seems like the past few times I've played Random the other person stops playing and I can't finish the game.  :( - azbellatink  246.2 #1402 12:47AM
Yay I made the list!!!!!!  - DayDreamsOfDisneyland  146.2 #2780 7:02PM
 YOU!!! Having fun playing!! - DisneyMom13  238.1 #1498 5:01PM
Well done:-).  I'm enjoying playing your games.  Thank you. - beentoall  370.4 #0 2:19AM


 
MONTHLY WAIT TIME LEADERS REAL-TIME: Thank you to everyone who enters accurate wait times--you earn MouseRank Points, Credits, worldwide fame, and wealth beyond your wildest dreams when you enter wait times at the Park (ok maybe not the last two things). Please remember to ONLY enter wait times that you have verified in person, this improves our algorithm substantially, thanks!

1. OhanaPhoto
397.1

2. Mouse4life
357.9

3. drummerkidd
261.6

4. ShariRenee
191.73

5. sawman911
131.03

6. spicoli
105.13

7. Tom
104.83

8. secretagentangel
95.27

9. shootanyangle
90.53

10. jeffandkaarina
74.13

 

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14 more days and I shall be entering in wait times for the first time( I was slow and shy to post). Well actually it will be 15 days. The first  day we check in and go to Trader Sam's. πŸ˜‰ - varela2892  31.3 #5877 7:14AM
Wow! I'm on the list 😊 - disneymom1  257.4 #1281 10:17PM
I just want to thank all the newbies who are on the list so much lately! This was started as a wait time and more app so by your starting out from the beginning doing wait times is awesome! 2/3of my points are from wait times. I make a game of it and have fun doing them. Hope everyone tries it, it helps others and you earn credits!!πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘ - secretagentangel  4735.1 #28 9:06PM
Half of my points are from wait times.  - Goofytom  2116.1 #72 10:28PM
Congrats to the MWers who maid the list - disneylover2002  7.8 #13061 7:43PM
 I'm about to fall off the bottom there real soon...but I had fun entering times during our visit.  - DisneyMom13  238.1 #1498 10:02PM

Here are the upcoming MouseWait Events. You can post your event on mobile here, and on the web here. Thanks!

1. #MWMEETUP ONE LAST TIME
Aug 06, 2016 12:00pm

MouseWait Meetups 2016
what is happening for one last time on aug 6? - MsTikiMermadam  1065.1 #172 12:31AM
It was January 8 I think but I left it as I think it's funnyπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ I'll have to delete it😭😭 - secretagentangel  4735.1 #28 7:55PM
ok,  last time for btr....  πŸ˜Ή - MsTikiMermadam  1065.1 #172 6:03AM
It looks like we need to get more official meet-ups happening in the parks.  πŸ˜„ - LaPearleNoir  1814.4 #94 9:38AM
I do one a week but we need more! We were saying last week to add an Astro blaster to Friday maybe? We could do a monorail or BRMRR sweeper tooπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚Plus I'm trying to post a few ahead of time so people can plan. Next week the meetup we do for MW  had to be Friday again but hopefully Tuesday  the next week! We have two very cool ones coming up next month! It's a secret😎😎😎😎 - secretagentangel  4735.1 #28 9:47PM
Your Tuesday night meet up is great but I'm just remembering all the meetups we used to have.  I wonder what the meet ups are next month..... I'll be there with my  - LaPearleNoir  1814.4 #94 10:30PM
i keep ending up with tues classes,  and missing the tues meetups.  so glad i have made a few of them! - MsTikiMermadam  1065.1 #172 6:05AM
I'll post the ones I know about, I'm switching some to weekends too. And maybe get a few others too! 😊 - secretagentangel  4735.1 #28 8:49PM
When is the next meet up? - sunvalgifts  31.8 #5820 2:36PM
Tuesday the 16th of February at 5 till parade time.  - secretagentangel  4735.1 #28 8:12PM

Thanked by:   LaPearleNoir   MsTikiMermadam   disneyforme   ebugsmama   NvNana  

 
MONTHLY OVERALL REAL-TIME LEADERBOARD

1. OhanaPhoto
435.01

2. Mouse4life
388.28

3. drummerkidd
261.6

4. ShariRenee
233.49

5. sawman911
131.65

6. Winnie111286
129.4

7. secretagentangel
121.77

8. HARR_E
113.67

9. Tom
113.42

10. Taunton
107.71



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I love Disneyland! - Melody_CM  13474.3 #3 11:30PM
Wow I've never made a list before. Thanks - disneybob49  471.9 #455 9:59AM
Oh wow! Finally on the list! All my real time posts are posted in DL Talk, so surprised to see thisπŸ˜‚ - Alicewhoareyou  2610.0 #53 4:23PM
I made the list! I'm somebody now!!!πŸ‘ŸπŸ‘ŸπŸ˜‚ - OhanaPhoto  5334.6 #21 9:54AM
You are always somebody, unless you're nobody, then you are nobody! πŸ˜‚ - RetroDisneyPins2002  24.5 #6625 2:15PM
RetroDisneyPins2002 πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ - OhanaPhoto  5334.6 #21 7:00PM
OhanaPhoto - You are BIG time now!!! 😜 - DisLUVney  633.6 #319 8:37PM

DISCOUNTED DISNEYLAND TICKETS THROUGH MOUSEWAIT! You get 2% off select tickets if you purchase on this page and use the code MOUSEWAIT at checkout. A percentage of your total purchase comes back to MouseWait, which helps cover our monthly maintenance and development expenses! You will also get 100 Credits if you email us your receipt along with your username! 

Can you get a discount on annual passes too? - DeeDeeMouse  279.5 #1061 9:59PM
How do you get discount on AP passes. Guessing use MOUSEWAIT - suzieq65  111.4 #3407 4:00PM
You get discounts on AP by renewing early. It's through Disney . They'll send you a card.  - secretagentangel  4735.1 #28 8:58PM
It says discount not available ... Maybe I'm doing it wrong? - Woodylover  52.1 #4704 12:13AM
Apparently whatever I was trying to buy doesn't apply. Dang - Poisen_Ivy  315.2 #826 12:47PM
Get tickets through MW then sign up for your Annual Pass at the parks ticket booths😊 - sunvalgifts  31.8 #5820 11:06AM

Here is the Overall Quality Top 10 real-time list. Follow these MouseWaiters for great content:

1. CobbPR
6890

2. uscdisneyteacher
6247

3. Dave
5887

4. BaseballMickey_CM
5854

5. Winnie111286
5570

6. Plumiegirl
5480

7. Duchess_SMK
5399

8. misschurro
5271

9. pikarich
4806

10. Stitch_Legacy
4717



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This list needs to be updated! Just saying😬 - MadameLeota  4254.1 #34 9:51PM
FINALLY!  Thank you!  - MadameLeota  4254.1 #34 2:34PM
is this just a standing thing? Never changes? - DarthFairy  426.7 #519 8:06PM

Here are the Top 10 MouseWaiters of All-Time:

1. Coaster
19218.6

2. Dave
13532.7

3. Melody_CM
13474.3

4. Winnie111286
12466.8

5. jacdanfan
11394.3

6. Tom
11229.1

7. goofygal
11004.8

8. Plumiegirl
10191.8

9. ShariRenee
8811.05

10. uscdisneyteacher
7928.24


Such great people on this list, many who doSo much for the app. 😍😍 - secretagentangel  4735.1 #28 2:09PM
Yay! Thank you! - Song  1868.3 #91 8:50AM
 I bow down to you....real fast....like Aladdin drops in front of the Royal Princess, Jasmine! - DisneyMom13  238.1 #1498 1:53PM
Congrats - superdisneyman80  0.1 #102185 8:22PM

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TOP MWs of the WEEK

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2.sawman911 131.51 #51  
3.drummerkidd 115.57 #393  
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5.spicoli 105.13 #2555  
6.secretagentangel 76.17 #28  
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