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Mar 7, 2013 9:14 AM  Disneyland Talk Land
Good morning! This day in Disney history, March 7th,1997. Pirates of the Caribbean reopens after being renovated. In its original form, the Disneyland attraction contained a scene in which pirates were shown chasing women in circles. Along a "comical" reversal in which an overweight woman was seen chasing a pirate. When guests were offended by this depiction, Disney initially changed the woman chasing the pirate by having her try to hit him w/a rolling pin. In 1997, this scene was changed so that the pirates pursued women holding pies, & the large woman is chasing a pirate w/a stolen ham. However, the audio of the women's giggles while being chased remained despite complaints. Sometime after this the audio was also removed. In addition, originally, one overweight pirate (sometimes known as the "Pooped Pirate", pictured below) was shown exhausted from his pursuit of an unwilling teenaged female. He brandished a petticoat as guests floated past & uttered suggestive dialogue, including: "It's sore I be to hoist me colors upon the likes of that shy little wench", & "I be willing to share, I be". Behind him, the woman he had been pursuing would anxiously peer out from her hiding place inside a barrel. In the refurbishment, the "Pooped Pirate" was recast as the Gluttonous Pirate, a rogue in search of food. His dialogue included lines such as: "Me belly be feeling like galleon w/a load of treasure", & "I be looking for a fine pork loin, I be". The woman hiding in the barrel was replaced by a cat. Do you prefer the current version of POTC w/Jack, Jones & Barbosa? Or do you miss the 1997 version? Or perhaps the original 1967 one? Why?

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My mom's favorite ride! She never saw the addition of Captain Jack but she did see the change that Lilsterner mentioned....and was not happy! Every time I ride POTC my thoughts turn to how much fun she had on it...the drops were as close to a thrill ride that she ever wanted to go on. I have to admit I usually get misty eyed riding it as I pretend she is sitting next to me. - Gia  802.0 #219 10:02AM
Awe! Again with a super sweet story! πŸ˜‰ My favorite attraction as well! - Duchess_SMK  6197.3 #16 10:35AM
😊😊😘 - DisneyFanZoe  1243.8 #132 10:46AM
So sweet. - LisaMouse7531  410.1 #515 12:53PM
What a wonderful memory - that-goofy-girl  5.8 #15681 7:39PM
I miss the original scene with the women being chased. That was more realistic! When the change was made to chasing food I was surprised at the addition of the overweight woman chasing the ham. I thought it was funny that there was a change to be PC in one aspect but just became as stereotypical in another one. I miss the funny historical aspect of the original but I don't mind the addition of Jack, Barbosa, and Davey Jones. - LilSterner  5091.5 #21 9:22AM
My thoughts exactly lol - rbeezy  703.0 #259 9:41AM
I also liked the women chasing the men and thought it weird at the time of why it was changed. It wasn't until I got older I realized why it was changed, I liked it the old way since that was just a pirates life to me! - pixiedreamer  164.0 #2454 9:50AM
Politically correct wins again. πŸ˜” - Duchess_SMK  6197.3 #16 10:13AM
Thanks for typing that out for me. Agree with everything. Funny>fake PC. As a kid I thought the chase was the funniest part. - Westcoast  152.3 #2624 11:32AM
I feel the same way! - AKMouse  488.2 #411 4:01PM
I agree. I loved the humor of the original and every time I go through I miss it in that section. I don't miss the women giggling. - Zipadeedoodah  215.5 #1750 7:55PM
Original all the way, baby! - MeridaFan  3625.2 #37 9:17AM
☺ Ok, fair, but why? - Duchess_SMK  6197.3 #16 9:37AM
It's what I grew up with. Every time I go by that one part, I can still picture the pirate holding the slipper and veil, and see the girl popping out of the barrel with the candle. That said, I also love the Jack Sparrow additions! πŸ˜„ So at least they made a good swap there. - MeridaFan  3625.2 #37 9:40AM
I'll never complain about Jack being there either but yes, the original had more character to me! - Duchess_SMK  6197.3 #16 10:21AM
Since I didn't go on the attraction until about 2002ish, I never saw the original. But, after watching those DL sing-a-long videos, I always feared that the hanging barrels at the end were going to explode (like in the videos), but realized that it was just for TV. - BaseballMickey_CM  7254.8 #9 10:10AM
I love the original and grew up with it. I do however like the integration of Jack Sparrow, Barbosa & DJ. This was well done! Thank you Duchess! - ShariRenee  6441.9 #15 10:23AM
I miss the chase scenes but I enjoy the Jack /Barbosa additions. I really enjoy "This Day in Disney History" posts, Thank you! - GrumpyPirateDad  1847.9 #84 10:35AM
Especially when I can visit the attraction or topic of the history. Thanks again for sharing - GrumpyPirateDad  1847.9 #84 8:13PM
It didn't like when they changed it, but do like it be since the added Sparrow, and Barbosa . Cool pic by the way! - 7mouskedoodles  371.6 #581 10:49AM
Thanks, that's a lot of history. - GoofyJoe  1906.6 #79 11:00AM
I liked the original version. I never understood why they felt a need to be politically correct in some areas, but not in others, ie...auctioning off rope bound women. Puzzling. However, I do like the newest version with all the character additions. - DisneyGrandma  874.5 #202 11:02AM
Excellent point! - MeridaFan  3625.2 #37 3:20PM
Agreed - Plumiegirl  9512.1 #4 7:42PM
Every time I ride I miss the original one. I don't understand the change and never will. I also remember at the end of the ride while going back up, there was a pirate trying to steal a bag of treasure. - adventurerEnDisneylandia {AED}  1031.1 #170 11:02AM
I liked the original and was sad they gave in to PC pressure. The Jack Sparrow addition feels commercial to me. I miss the original battle scene. - happiestplace  154.8 #2594 11:10AM
I loved the old version. I'm not a huge fan of the newer one. My favorite part is Carlos.. and the red head of course lol - fairyshley  479.8 #420 11:41AM
I prefer the pre 97 version. This was my dads favorite ride and he always had a big smile when riding POTC. He passed away in 97 so he never saw the refurb. Thanks for this post πŸ‘ - philliprocks  1197.2 #139 12:13PM
Thanks for the great information! I have that scene of the young woman popping up out of the barrel in my head now. I forgot about that scene. I liked the pre 97 version of pirates and personally I didn't notice the dialog in that scene because there was so much going on. - leftmyheartinwonderland  359.9 #611 12:46PM
I always found it hysterical that they got rid of this scene but left in the women being auctioned off....You'd think that is a lot more offensive than being chased around - Dave  13310.3 #2 12:52PM
We live in a funny world. - adventurerEnDisneylandia {AED}  1031.1 #170 12:56PM
I guess paid is better than free. - madsdad  1868.2 #83 1:12PM
exactly - cesium55  531.8 #374 1:30PM
At 6 years old I clearly remember the original pirates chasing the wenches ... 25 years later I still miss the original... Thank u for the history facts on this ride! 😊 - MaliceInWonderland  37.0 #5187 1:03PM
Love disney history. Thanks for sharing. - Splashmountgirl  337.1 #678 1:21PM
Wonderful history! I like this newest version not a big fan of assault - Tealtownfan  1015.6 #174 2:55PM
I don't like the new additions to POTC, and was really bummed the first time I rode it and saw Captain Jack. I get it, and I understand why they did it, but if I had my way, they would never really change anything in the Disney parks...just expand it :) - CountryBearTrixie  210.8 #1818 4:12PM
i think people that got offended are dumb, you cant just go back and change history and what happened in those times, that's how things were, men chased girls, i havent seen that change still in these times, people are too sensative and need to grow a harder shell, you cant live under your protective shell forever - zombiesix  260.4 #1209 6:22PM
This day in history has to be one of my faves so far! Thank you for posting this. POTC is my favorite attraction since I could remember! Love everything about it including all of its history!! :) - MagicalLand  414.2 #509 7:30PM
This was my dad's FAVORITE ride! He had to go on it every single time we were there! The kids still mention something funny he said or did on this ride, every time we ride it now! It will always remind me of him!! Thanks for sharing this... It made me smile! - MrsPrinceCharming 8:19PM
Amazing as usual!! I had no idea about all the switches. How times change. I love the tubby guy who's all full and glutinous! Thanks for the history lesson as always 😘 - CourtyAstroBlisters  782.1 #227 8:50PM
As always Duchess_SMK your This Day in History posts are genius! I like the way they added Captain Jack and company! They did it without being overwhelming. But all in all I liked the original, it depicted they way I thought pirates would act! Aarrgghhh!βš“ - Boundin  618.7 #311 8:52PM
Thanks, I LOVE your history posts!! I have the entire Pirates soundtrack before 1997 with the old, "sore I be..." So that explains it, thanks! - adisneyfamily  920.5 #187 9:21AM
Oh good! So happy you enjoy these! Happy to have solved that puzzle for you. 😘 - Duchess_SMK  6197.3 #16 9:35AM
I'd enjoy his suggestive comments. - madsdad  1868.2 #83 9:21AM
For some reason this doesn't surprise me. πŸ˜‚ - Duchess_SMK  6197.3 #16 9:24AM
I would love if they kept it all! - MomWithAJuiceBoxBuzz  1186.3 #141 9:28AM
Kept all the original? - Duchess_SMK  6197.3 #16 9:50AM
I grew up with the original from 1967. I miss several parts of this attraction that have been changed over the years. I'm sure that Duchess will provide the details of those later this month when we have another awesome Disney History from her... I will say that, true to Disney's high quality art and imagination, the renovation is a very nice upgrade. Thank you SMK for this Disney History and for clearing up the sometimes misunderstood facts about the reasons for the changes on this great attraction. - IMissDisney  1205.7 #138 9:43AM
The anniversary is coming! Very excited. ::giggles:: thanks for the support as as always my friend! - Duchess_SMK  6197.3 #16 10:51AM
I like the original. It fits historically but it wasn't until recently when I listened to the soundtrack that I noticed the "Hoist me colors" line and actually know what he's talking about. Oh my! - cesium55  531.8 #374 9:46AM
πŸ˜³πŸ˜πŸ™ˆ - Duchess_SMK  6197.3 #16 11:16AM
The original just captured the "pirate life" it was a classic. It's sad how people let a ride offend them instead of enjoying it for what it was made for "fun" - justinschu4  36.0 #5234 9:47AM
Can never make everyone happy I suppose...::shrug:: - Duchess_SMK  6197.3 #16 4:15PM
I will never understand the fascination with pirates in general. People do understand what a pirate is right? Murderer and thief and many other unmentionables. I mean why is it ok to have women tied up and auctioned off to the highest bidder but people thought those other things were offensive? - dolewhipkarlita  92.9 #3613 3:05PM
I don't think we think of that part of a pirate. But the freedom they had, the adventure! Treasure hunting, being on the open seas! We try and be positive, and look for the best in people. That includes pirates. - LilMissPixie84  309.5 #814 3:13PM
The pirates depicted in Disney's classic stories (like Peter Pan and Treasure Island) are shown as "bad guys", however these are kid stories. Adventure and freedom are emphasized over the more seedy side of piracy. Pirates of the Caribbean has been a wonderful and fun attraction for almost 50 years! Any kid will tell you how cool it is. - IMissDisney  1205.7 #138 3:43PM
I have also thought that! I remember being like geez. This is kind of intense. The women are crying as they're basically sold into slavery, but I also agree with mypark and LMSP. I think disney was shooin for The pirates that had adventure. However, the ride more depicts drunke'n ported who are stealing and selling women. I think you both bring up really valid points. We also have to remember that when This ride was created political correctness was not nearly as popular or enforced as it is today. - BellesLibrary  408.7 #521 4:08PM

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9. Duchess_SMK

10. Sweet_Irish_Cream


Play Disneyland Trivia with your friends for FREE! See the list of TRIVILATOR usernames on this page. Play from any device with our new web version

Cool admin. Hope I do better than the first one. Hope people that enter will be ready to play and the tournament moves along better - Goofytom  1360.2 #115 6:41PM
I will announce the December tournament date this week. - Admin 11:58PM
Can't wait! - sawman911  1060.6 #164 6:30PM
There should be a droid version of this. I. would love to play  - bryanjung1997  1.1 #66265 2:19PM
I end up deleting games while in progress due to opponents leaving me hanging FOR-EH-VER!!! - MommyandBash  264.2 #1177 12:18PM
It happens, if you want start a game and I'll play you. I take a couple days off a week but I'll finish the games I start. - richiii3  809.9 #217 2:20PM

Our new Walt Disney World App for iOS is here! MagicSearch, upNEXT, new Lounge, and tons of other upgrades. Go get it here. You can see all of the new features and how tos here

thanks admin - Fantasmicfan1  1396.7 #112 9:42PM
  - jacdanfan  9582.9 #3 6:08AM
- Lilogirl1  123.3 #3096 4:26PM
Thanks! DW fans appreciate you! - LeighMouse  17.9 #0 7:58AM

TRIVILATOR 2.0 for iOS is here! We made it faster, easier to use, improved Random Games, fixed Push Notifications, added a Remove Ads option, new game packs, and we optmized it for the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus. Get the complete run down on our new blog here. Get the new update in the App Store, or grab it here. Did you know you can play on the web or from any device via our web version? Tell your friends about the TRIVILATOR, and submit your questions so they (and you) can be featured inside the app. You can submit your questions here. Have fun!

- valj84DisneyDeppAddict  238.1 #1450 12:58PM
Hi, @@valj84DisneyAddict Hope you are having a wonderful Easter 🐣Come play Trivilator with me! - Moog  89.8 #3669 3:00PM
Yes! A wonderful day!  Hope yours is great too!!! I will look for you on Trivilator. πŸ˜πŸ‘ - valj84DisneyDeppAddict  238.1 #1450 3:27PM
Is it a game? - palomine96  20.6 #6853 11:58PM
Yes!  It's a separate app.  Come play! - Moog  89.8 #3669 8:58AM
- djmickeymouse  8.6 #0 5:17PM
- princessvg  44.9 #4800 8:35AM


1. Winnie111286

2. Coaster

3. grumpypapa

4. OhanaPhoto

5. sawman911

6. luvmygreenarmyman

7. luxkitty

8. NikkiSea

9. rob2240

10. moolandr


Wow I've never made a list before. Thanks - disneybob49  340.4 #666 9:59AM
I love Disneyland! - Melody_CM  7607.5 #8 11:30PM
The link never works for me to see the list. It always just take me back to the top of the lounge. Any ideas? - Quiweez  107.1 #3410 9:52AM
Woohoo!  I made a MW list!!!   - luvmygreenarmyman  474.7 #427 10:36PM

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Can you get a discount on annual passes too? - DeeDeeMouse  274.9 #1070 9:59PM
How do you get discount on AP passes. Guessing use MOUSEWAIT - suzieq65  95.6 #3579 4:00PM
You get discounts on AP by renewing early. It's through Disney . They'll send you a card.  - secretagentangel  2362.4 #59 8:58PM
It says discount not available ... Maybe I'm doing it wrong? - gedi0614  34.4 #5343 12:13AM
Apparently whatever I was trying to buy doesn't apply. Dang - Poisen_Ivy  286.3 #961 12:47PM

Disneyland unFORECAST (BETA) is here! Top MouseWaiters giving you the rundown of what's happening at the Disneyland Resort. The unFORECAST now has its own page on the web www.unFORECAST.com

unFORECAST for the week of September 29, 2015
Mickey's Halloween Party has an interesting effect on crowd levels. This week, Disneyland will close early on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday to host the party. Disneyland Park crowds are usually lighter on party days (with the exception of Friday). Last weekend was very busy, while this Monday was not. Looking back at MouseWait's Historical Crowd Index (available in our MagicPlan iOS Calendar), this week last year averaged in the low 60s (approx 60% capacity). Important note when comparing last year's Crowd Index: we've seen larger crowds on average this year due to the 60th Celebration activities. To get a real-time look at crowd levels, check the MouseWait App for Crowd Index averages and wait times. Have a great week! - Admin Sep 29, 2015 11:33AM

We have always noticed that Saturdays are better than Sundays! We always come on the weekend and say we want to leave at dinner time on Sunday, but always leave by 11-12 because there are so many people. We love Saturday!! - 1Princess3Princes  558.8 #345 5:39PM
I agree. I think it has to do with most passes being blocked - PoohSizedGuy  18.6 #7231 11:53PM
Saturday's rule! One of the perks of a premium pass!  - snappy  409.1 #518 7:32AM
I love these posts!  I do have a question/request/suggestion...is there a way to only show the 3-4 most recent posts?  It's a lot to scroll through. @@Admin - TiggersAndTinks  163.6 #2464 5:08AM
I second this. The info is great to have, but it's too long.  - 1HitchhikingGhost  241.8 #1414 5:04PM
Can't wait, 7 days!!!!  - varela2892  15.1 #8085 2:53PM
I'm glad Saturday's are good we are going tomorrow ! - vanessav87  5.4 #16672 3:45PM

Please help me welcome FreePrints to the MouseWait family: the Official Photo App of MouseWait! FreePrints is the highest rated, most popular photo printing app in the world.

Download FreePrints for free (iOSAndroidWindows PhonePC/Mac version) and get up to 85 4x6 free photos per month--up to 1000 per year (make sure you select MouseWait from the "how did you hear about us" drop down). Their app is intuitive and simple to use, making it easy to print your favorite pics from your phone. There are NO subscriptions or commitments. All you pay is shipping (from $1.99 to $9.99). Thanks for your support!

I love this App. I've used for a while. Easy to use and conveniently shipped to home! - ElectricMayhemMom  1146.5 #147 5:30PM
welcome FREEPRINTS!  Thanks Admin for getting great stuff for us! - snowgrey  5.9 #15370 1:51PM
Welcome to MOUSEWAIT!  - secretagentangel  2362.4 #59 1:43PM


Innoventions reopens as Star Wars Launch Bay November 16
it's a small world Oct 12-Nov 5
Big Thunder Ranch and Barbecue will close permanently Jan 10
Fantasmic! Jan 10-TBA
Disneyland Railroad Jan 10-TBA
Mark Twain Riverboat Jan 10-TBA
Sailing Ship Columbia Jan 10-TBA
Season of the Force-Hyperspace Mountain begins November 16


Luigi's Rollickin Roadsters opens early 2016
It's Tough to be a Bug Sept 8-17

Were visiting during the diamond celebration.  I'm so excited because all of our favorite rides will be open! - Dsc1983  16.2 #7767 10:53PM
Awesome! Can't wait! - PrincessDaisy  323.9 #738 8:33AM
Hey! Space Moutain will be down November 10th as per the Disneyland website. Any ideas why or when it will open? Were scheduled to be down there on the 12th! TIA✨ - Tinkertoes83  26.5 #6012 8:04PM
They are redoing the ride with a Star Wars theme  - hatboxmermaid  0.0 #0 9:47PM
Should be back online nov 16 - quote  126.0 #0 11:55AM
Oh πŸ˜’. Thank you for the updates!  - Tinkertoes83  26.5 #6012 8:22PM
Does anyone know how long it will be down for? My kids and I are going for the first time Nov 13-1710th? - walker05  0.2 #95095 4:43PM

Credits Hall of Fame. This real-time list honors the top Credits purchasers by showing the total number of Credits purchased. These MouseWaiters play an integral part in helping us maintain and innovate. Thank you to everyone who buys Credits in the MW iOS app, TRIVILATOR, and Goat Effect!

1. secretagentangel

2. jacdanfan


4. leopardditz2000

5. DisneyGrandma

6. debbiev

7. DisLUVney

8. MeridaFan

9. Melody_CM

10. splurtian


  Well done and congratulations.  Now I know how some people have so many stickers.  Keep up the good work:-) - beentoall  280.8 #0 2:55AM
And they share - suzieq65  95.6 #3579 9:06PM
#10 needs a pic bad! - DarthFairy  247.1 #1345 12:42PM
@DisLUVney, lol weren't we just talking about this haha - MinnieTinker  550.4 #354 8:58PM
I can't help myself....help me. πŸ˜‚ - DisLUVney  616.4 #312 9:23PM
Wow wow wow!!! - stanvoodoo  24.6 #6249 10:52PM

Here are the Top 10 MouseWaiters of All-Time:

1. Coaster

2. Dave

3. jacdanfan

4. Plumiegirl

5. Tom

6. goofygal

7. uscdisneyteacher

8. Melody_CM

9. BaseballMickey_CM

10. CobbPR

Such great people on this list, many who doSo much for the app. 😍😍 - secretagentangel  2362.4 #59 2:09PM
Yay! Thank you! - Song  1868.2 #82 8:50AM

Hey I'm finally on this list πŸ˜„πŸ‘πŸŽ‰ - Sweet_Irish_Cream  4406.2 #27 10:39PM
Your always on the list!!! πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚list of what I don't know😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝. Jk - Fantasmicfan1  1396.7 #112 12:34PM
Love seeing everyone's pictures from Disneyland !! I know, we always have a good time :) - Lyssa2012  196.1 #1996 11:22PM
i am so glad i got to experience it,  but did not have to go thru it! - MsTikiMermadam  548.7 #357 5:56AM
First time on the list!!!!! - Voycekids  31.4 #5565 10:37AM
First time making the real time list!! Cool. Thanks admin - buzzgoneyear92  195.4 #2008 12:03PM

Here are the overall MouseRank leaders for the past 6 months:

August 2015: Melody_CM 740.2
July 2015: Winnie111286 463.58
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April 2015: Fantasmicfan1 466.89
March 2015: HARR_E 423.38
February 2015: Winnie111286 364.36

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