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Mar 7, 2013 9:14 AM  Disneyland Talk Land
Good morning! This day in Disney history, March 7th,1997. Pirates of the Caribbean reopens after being renovated. In its original form, the Disneyland attraction contained a scene in which pirates were shown chasing women in circles. Along a "comical" reversal in which an overweight woman was seen chasing a pirate. When guests were offended by this depiction, Disney initially changed the woman chasing the pirate by having her try to hit him w/a rolling pin. In 1997, this scene was changed so that the pirates pursued women holding pies, & the large woman is chasing a pirate w/a stolen ham. However, the audio of the women's giggles while being chased remained despite complaints. Sometime after this the audio was also removed. In addition, originally, one overweight pirate (sometimes known as the "Pooped Pirate", pictured below) was shown exhausted from his pursuit of an unwilling teenaged female. He brandished a petticoat as guests floated past & uttered suggestive dialogue, including: "It's sore I be to hoist me colors upon the likes of that shy little wench", & "I be willing to share, I be". Behind him, the woman he had been pursuing would anxiously peer out from her hiding place inside a barrel. In the refurbishment, the "Pooped Pirate" was recast as the Gluttonous Pirate, a rogue in search of food. His dialogue included lines such as: "Me belly be feeling like galleon w/a load of treasure", & "I be looking for a fine pork loin, I be". The woman hiding in the barrel was replaced by a cat. Do you prefer the current version of POTC w/Jack, Jones & Barbosa? Or do you miss the 1997 version? Or perhaps the original 1967 one? Why?

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My mom's favorite ride! She never saw the addition of Captain Jack but she did see the change that Lilsterner mentioned....and was not happy! Every time I ride POTC my thoughts turn to how much fun she had on it...the drops were as close to a thrill ride that she ever wanted to go on. I have to admit I usually get misty eyed riding it as I pretend she is sitting next to me. - Gia  802.0 #223 10:02AM
Awe! Again with a super sweet story! πŸ˜‰ My favorite attraction as well! - Duchess_SMK  6250.0 #17 10:35AM
😊😊😘 - DisneyFanZoe  1249.2 #135 10:46AM
So sweet. - LisaMouse7531  410.1 #523 12:53PM
What a wonderful memory - that-goofy-girl  5.8 #16023 7:39PM
I miss the original scene with the women being chased. That was more realistic! When the change was made to chasing food I was surprised at the addition of the overweight woman chasing the ham. I thought it was funny that there was a change to be PC in one aspect but just became as stereotypical in another one. I miss the funny historical aspect of the original but I don't mind the addition of Jack, Barbosa, and Davey Jones. - LilSterner  5143.4 #20 9:22AM
My thoughts exactly lol - rbeezy  703.0 #264 9:41AM
I also liked the women chasing the men and thought it weird at the time of why it was changed. It wasn't until I got older I realized why it was changed, I liked it the old way since that was just a pirates life to me! - pixiedreamer  177.1 #2267 9:50AM
Politically correct wins again. πŸ˜” - Duchess_SMK  6250.0 #17 10:13AM
Thanks for typing that out for me. Agree with everything. Funny>fake PC. As a kid I thought the chase was the funniest part. - Westcoast  152.5 #2646 11:32AM
I feel the same way! - AKMouse  489.4 #417 4:01PM
I agree. I loved the humor of the original and every time I go through I miss it in that section. I don't miss the women giggling. - Zipadeedoodah  215.5 #1772 7:55PM
Original all the way, baby! - MeridaFan  3994.6 #35 9:17AM
☺ Ok, fair, but why? - Duchess_SMK  6250.0 #17 9:37AM
It's what I grew up with. Every time I go by that one part, I can still picture the pirate holding the slipper and veil, and see the girl popping out of the barrel with the candle. That said, I also love the Jack Sparrow additions! πŸ˜„ So at least they made a good swap there. - MeridaFan  3994.6 #35 9:40AM
I'll never complain about Jack being there either but yes, the original had more character to me! - Duchess_SMK  6250.0 #17 10:21AM
Since I didn't go on the attraction until about 2002ish, I never saw the original. But, after watching those DL sing-a-long videos, I always feared that the hanging barrels at the end were going to explode (like in the videos), but realized that it was just for TV. - BaseballMickey_CM  7352.0 #11 10:10AM
I love the original and grew up with it. I do however like the integration of Jack Sparrow, Barbosa & DJ. This was well done! Thank you Duchess! - ShariRenee  7825.7 #9 10:23AM
I miss the chase scenes but I enjoy the Jack /Barbosa additions. I really enjoy "This Day in Disney History" posts, Thank you! - GrumpyPirateDad  1918.0 #82 10:35AM
Especially when I can visit the attraction or topic of the history. Thanks again for sharing - GrumpyPirateDad  1918.0 #82 8:13PM
It didn't like when they changed it, but do like it be since the added Sparrow, and Barbosa . Cool pic by the way! - 7mouskedoodles  371.6 #588 10:49AM
Thanks, that's a lot of history. - GoofyJoe  1906.6 #83 11:00AM
I liked the original version. I never understood why they felt a need to be politically correct in some areas, but not in others, ie...auctioning off rope bound women. Puzzling. However, I do like the newest version with all the character additions. - DisneyGrandma  876.1 #204 11:02AM
Excellent point! - MeridaFan  3994.6 #35 3:20PM
Agreed - Plumiegirl  9747.9 #7 7:42PM
Every time I ride I miss the original one. I don't understand the change and never will. I also remember at the end of the ride while going back up, there was a pirate trying to steal a bag of treasure. - adventurerEnDisneylandia {AED}  1077.1 #164 11:02AM
I liked the original and was sad they gave in to PC pressure. The Jack Sparrow addition feels commercial to me. I miss the original battle scene. - happiestplace  184.5 #2167 11:10AM
I loved the old version. I'm not a huge fan of the newer one. My favorite part is Carlos.. and the red head of course lol - fairyshley  479.8 #426 11:41AM
I prefer the pre 97 version. This was my dads favorite ride and he always had a big smile when riding POTC. He passed away in 97 so he never saw the refurb. Thanks for this post πŸ‘ - philliprocks  1296.4 #130 12:13PM
Thanks for the great information! I have that scene of the young woman popping up out of the barrel in my head now. I forgot about that scene. I liked the pre 97 version of pirates and personally I didn't notice the dialog in that scene because there was so much going on. - leftmyheartinwonderland  359.9 #621 12:46PM
I always found it hysterical that they got rid of this scene but left in the women being auctioned off....You'd think that is a lot more offensive than being chased around - Dave  13375.4 #2 12:52PM
We live in a funny world. - adventurerEnDisneylandia {AED}  1077.1 #164 12:56PM
I guess paid is better than free. - madsdad  1868.2 #87 1:12PM
exactly - cesium55  531.8 #378 1:30PM
At 6 years old I clearly remember the original pirates chasing the wenches ... 25 years later I still miss the original... Thank u for the history facts on this ride! 😊 - MaliceInWonderland  37.0 #5256 1:03PM
Love disney history. Thanks for sharing. - Splashmountgirl  337.1 #693 1:21PM
Wonderful history! I like this newest version not a big fan of assault - Tealtownfan  1015.6 #178 2:55PM
I don't like the new additions to POTC, and was really bummed the first time I rode it and saw Captain Jack. I get it, and I understand why they did it, but if I had my way, they would never really change anything in the Disney parks...just expand it :) - CountryBearTrixie  210.8 #1838 4:12PM
i think people that got offended are dumb, you cant just go back and change history and what happened in those times, that's how things were, men chased girls, i havent seen that change still in these times, people are too sensative and need to grow a harder shell, you cant live under your protective shell forever - zombiesix  260.4 #1225 6:22PM
This day in history has to be one of my faves so far! Thank you for posting this. POTC is my favorite attraction since I could remember! Love everything about it including all of its history!! :) - MagicalLand  414.2 #517 7:30PM
This was my dad's FAVORITE ride! He had to go on it every single time we were there! The kids still mention something funny he said or did on this ride, every time we ride it now! It will always remind me of him!! Thanks for sharing this... It made me smile! - MrsPrinceCharming 8:19PM
Amazing as usual!! I had no idea about all the switches. How times change. I love the tubby guy who's all full and glutinous! Thanks for the history lesson as always 😘 - CourtyAstroBlisters  783.3 #229 8:50PM
As always Duchess_SMK your This Day in History posts are genius! I like the way they added Captain Jack and company! They did it without being overwhelming. But all in all I liked the original, it depicted they way I thought pirates would act! Aarrgghhh!βš“ - Boundin  652.2 #295 8:52PM
Thanks, I LOVE your history posts!! I have the entire Pirates soundtrack before 1997 with the old, "sore I be..." So that explains it, thanks! - adisneyfamily  998.2 #182 9:21AM
Oh good! So happy you enjoy these! Happy to have solved that puzzle for you. 😘 - Duchess_SMK  6250.0 #17 9:35AM
I'd enjoy his suggestive comments. - madsdad  1868.2 #87 9:21AM
For some reason this doesn't surprise me. πŸ˜‚ - Duchess_SMK  6250.0 #17 9:24AM
I would love if they kept it all! - MomWithAJuiceBoxBuzz  1188.9 #144 9:28AM
Kept all the original? - Duchess_SMK  6250.0 #17 9:50AM
I grew up with the original from 1967. I miss several parts of this attraction that have been changed over the years. I'm sure that Duchess will provide the details of those later this month when we have another awesome Disney History from her... I will say that, true to Disney's high quality art and imagination, the renovation is a very nice upgrade. Thank you SMK for this Disney History and for clearing up the sometimes misunderstood facts about the reasons for the changes on this great attraction. - IMissDisney  1205.7 #143 9:43AM
The anniversary is coming! Very excited. ::giggles:: thanks for the support as as always my friend! - Duchess_SMK  6250.0 #17 10:51AM
I like the original. It fits historically but it wasn't until recently when I listened to the soundtrack that I noticed the "Hoist me colors" line and actually know what he's talking about. Oh my! - cesium55  531.8 #378 9:46AM
πŸ˜³πŸ˜πŸ™ˆ - Duchess_SMK  6250.0 #17 11:16AM
The original just captured the "pirate life" it was a classic. It's sad how people let a ride offend them instead of enjoying it for what it was made for "fun" - justinschu4  39.3 #5133 9:47AM
Can never make everyone happy I suppose...::shrug:: - Duchess_SMK  6250.0 #17 4:15PM
I will never understand the fascination with pirates in general. People do understand what a pirate is right? Murderer and thief and many other unmentionables. I mean why is it ok to have women tied up and auctioned off to the highest bidder but people thought those other things were offensive? - dolewhipkarlita  93.0 #3648 3:05PM
I don't think we think of that part of a pirate. But the freedom they had, the adventure! Treasure hunting, being on the open seas! We try and be positive, and look for the best in people. That includes pirates. - LilMissPixie84  309.5 #834 3:13PM
The pirates depicted in Disney's classic stories (like Peter Pan and Treasure Island) are shown as "bad guys", however these are kid stories. Adventure and freedom are emphasized over the more seedy side of piracy. Pirates of the Caribbean has been a wonderful and fun attraction for almost 50 years! Any kid will tell you how cool it is. - IMissDisney  1205.7 #143 3:43PM
I have also thought that! I remember being like geez. This is kind of intense. The women are crying as they're basically sold into slavery, but I also agree with mypark and LMSP. I think disney was shooin for The pirates that had adventure. However, the ride more depicts drunke'n ported who are stealing and selling women. I think you both bring up really valid points. We also have to remember that when This ride was created political correctness was not nearly as popular or enforced as it is today. - BellesLibrary  411.8 #519 4:08PM

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DISCOUNTED DISNEYLAND TICKETS THROUGH MOUSEWAIT! You get 2% off select tickets if you purchase on this page and use the code MOUSEWAIT at checkout. A percentage of your total purchase comes back to MouseWait, which helps cover our monthly maintenance and development expenses! You will also get 100 Credits if you email us your receipt along with your username! 

Can you get a discount on annual passes too? - DeeDeeMouse  274.9 #1088 9:59PM
How do you get discount on AP passes. Guessing use MOUSEWAIT - suzieq65  103.5 #3495 4:00PM
You get discounts on AP by renewing early. It's through Disney . They'll send you a card.  - secretagentangel  2915.7 #43 8:58PM
It says discount not available ... Maybe I'm doing it wrong? - Woodylover  40.5 #5079 12:13AM
Apparently whatever I was trying to buy doesn't apply. Dang - Poisen_Ivy  313.3 #805 12:47PM

Here are the top 10 News Contributors:

1. BaseballMickey_CM

2. Stitch_Legacy

3. RickChavez

4. ScooterMike

5. SPandEvLover

6. caramiapoohsadface

7. IDVandalSkipperCM

8. Dave

9. Duchess_SMK

10. Sweet_Irish_Cream


Hey I'm finally on this list πŸ˜„πŸ‘πŸŽ‰ - Sweet_Irish_Cream  4406.8 #30 10:39PM
Your always on the list!!! πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚list of what I don't know😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝. Jk - Fantasmicfan1  1447.5 #109 12:34PM
Love seeing everyone's pictures from Disneyland !! I know, we always have a good time :) - Lyssa2012  196.1 #2015 11:22PM
i am so glad i got to experience it,  but did not have to go thru it! - MsTikiMermadam  678.8 #282 5:56AM
First time making the real time list!! Cool. Thanks admin - buzzgoneyear92  210.5 #1844 12:03PM
Here! Yay! - LadyTrampTraveler8  48.3 #0 10:36AM

Our new Walt Disney World App for iOS is here! MagicSearch, upNEXT, new Lounge, and tons of other upgrades. Go get it here. You can see all of the new features and how tos here

thanks admin - Fantasmicfan1  1447.5 #109 9:42PM
  - jacdanfan  10815.9 #3 6:08AM
- Lilogirl1  125.9 #3068 4:26PM
Thanks! DW fans appreciate you! - LeighMouse  17.9 #0 7:58AM

Here are the recent wait time leaders:

October: toystory3 1571.8
August: Melody_CM 726.93
July: MelodyMouse 417.38
May: MelodyMouse 640.08
April: WARLOCK 228.33
March: HARR_E 290.27
February: jacdanfan 251.32
January: ShariRenee 246.23
December: MelodyMouse 303.05
November: MelodyMouse 410.98
October: jacdanfan 189.98

 Everyone for making   - Boundin  652.2 #295 10:21PM
That's awesome but like me a lot of ppl can't enter wait times I can't ever open or connect while in the park  - mickeyat78  1922.3 #81 5:39AM
Wow. Sorry to hear that. I'm on ATT and sometimes can't connect, tho it is rare - Melody_CM  9845.0 #6 8:12PM
Does ATT have personal space for power . I know that's not the correct name. Look in settings.  - suzieq65  103.5 #3495 2:46PM
great job! It's the wait times that brought me to this app. Thank you - Kimo  203.4 #1931 8:16PM
The mysterious disappearing month of June! - Melody_CM  9845.0 #6 12:13PM
No one updated times in June - philliprocks  1296.4 #130 8:05AM
I was blocked in June. :( - Taunton  728.8 #256 1:57AM
I think the park was closed that month. Preparation for the big 60th.  - MeridaFan  3994.6 #35 9:52PM
Lol - Oinker34  1373.4 #124 7:08AM

Here is the Overall Quality Top 10 real-time list. Follow these MouseWaiters for great content:

1. CobbPR

2. uscdisneyteacher

3. BaseballMickey_CM

4. Dave

5. Duchess_SMK

6. Plumiegirl

7. misschurro

8. Winnie111286

9. Stitch_Legacy

10. pikarich


This list needs to be updated! Just saying😬 - MadameLeota  3617.8 #38 9:51PM
FINALLY!  Thank you!  - MadameLeota  3617.8 #38 2:34PM
is this just a standing thing? Never changes? - DarthFairy  332.5 #708 8:06PM

Download VOYAGEERS to your device today! Discover the VOYAGEERS Society, and the magical Main Street Realm in this action packed adventure for kids of ALL ages! Also available on iBooks and Kobo. Follow the VOYAGEERS on Facebook for more info and behind the scenes exclusives.

Like normal I am late to the party. Reading it now - Tealtownfan  1015.6 #178 3:13PM
Got it! More than halfway thru it! It's a lot of fun!!!πŸ‘πŸ‘βœ¨βœ¨ - TinkerSchelle  1874.4 #85 10:53PM
Weeeeee - MommyandBash  331.6 #716 10:29PM
Just got a kindle so as soon as I figure out how to work it I'll be buying it. πŸ˜‰ - varela2892  28.0 #5993 2:38PM

Here are the Top 10 MouseWaiters of All-Time:

1. Coaster

2. Dave

3. jacdanfan

4. goofygal

5. Tom

6. Melody_CM

7. Plumiegirl

8. Winnie111286

9. ShariRenee

10. uscdisneyteacher

Such great people on this list, many who doSo much for the app. 😍😍 - secretagentangel  2915.7 #43 2:09PM
Yay! Thank you! - Song  1868.3 #86 8:50AM

Here are the Weekly Top 10 TRIVILATOR Players. Find people to play here. Play Disneyland Trivia with your friends on iOS. Play on any device with our new web version here.

1. DisneyMakesMeSmile

2. Goofytom

3. beentoall

4. mamabeam

5. Dolewhipped

6. yanks22

7. kellybrown342

8. DonaldRox

9. Boundin

10. Moog


Yay @@Moog!!!! So great!  πŸ˜ - valj84DisneyDeppAddict  248.1 #1349 6:28PM
You sweet thing!  You crack me up!  I'm merely an apprentice being schooled by @@Tom!! - Moog  91.0 #3680 11:33AM
πŸ‘‹β€οΈ - Tom  10041.0 #5 11:47AM
Wtg @@DisneyMakesMeSmile and @@Moog ;) - otilegna  2384.8 #60 7:41PM
A major compliment from someone who hands me my you know what every game, @@otilegna 😜!!! - Moog  91.0 #3680 8:05PM
Yay !!!  - otilegna  2384.8 #60 9:42AM
Wow, just tried it for the first time on Friday. Yikes, I thought I knew a lot but was I wrong!!! 😦 - varela2892  28.0 #5993 10:02PM
Does being on this list get me credits? New here and trying to figure this all out. - teaching76  0.4 #0 1:30PM
You get some credits for playing and winning. - sawman911  2162.6 #69 1:37PM

Here are the overall MouseRank leaders for the past 6 months:

October 2015: Winnie111286 1660.63
August 2015: Melody_CM 740.2
July 2015: Winnie111286 463.58
May 2015: MelodyMouse 679.4
April 2015: Fantasmicfan1 466.89
March 2015: HARR_E 423.38

! - FrankenweenieVelinee  2754.3 #45 7:16AM
- MowgliLovesBaloo  67.2 #0 5:18PM
- boomom  342.7 #673 4:47PM
Congrats - Chumash28  1161.5 #149 2:19PM

What if Walt never dreamed of Disneyland? What would your life be like? What would the world be like? Get Book Two of the VOYAGEERS Saga - The Great Storyteller - on Amazon. Buy the Paperback and get the Kindle version FREE! 

Thank you Admin! This book is a great read. I recommend it to anyone who is a Disney fan. Can't wait for the next one! - grumpypapa  4439.0 #29 8:38PM
Thank you for reading! - Admin  6:26PM
cant wait to read it - ebugsmama  18.5 #7430 10:32PM
- MaddForMansion  121.5 #3155 2:11PM
*s - Plumiegirl  9747.9 #7 10:15PM

Here are the upcoming MouseWait Events. You can post your event on mobile here, and on the web here. Thanks!

1. Zocalo Meet-up
Dec 02, 2015 05:30pm

2. Zocalo Meet-up
Dec 02, 2015 05:30pm

3. Mw mission inn holiday meetup
Dec 05, 2015 12:00am

4. Mw mission inn holiday meetup
Dec 05, 2015 05:00pm

5. Tower of Terror MeetUp
Dec 13, 2015 10:00am

We have our weekly MW sticker meetup at La Brea bakery at 4 pm in Downtown Disney! Lots of fun for newcomers and all and a great way to meet new people! Then we go to the MW spot we've held in DL to watch PTN and fireworks! Everyone is welcome! - secretagentangel  2915.7 #43 6:10PM
On Tuesday nights, duh!!!πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜© - secretagentangel  2915.7 #43 10:47PM
Thank You - suzieq65  103.5 #3495 6:20PM
We will be there in November - makeitbluesaysmerriwether  58.5 #4381 9:58AM
Every Tuesday? - DayDreamsOfDisneyland  29.6 #5833 10:46PM
Every Tuesday as of right now we meet in DL after La Brea eats., I'll post on Sunday, but there are one or two Tuesday's coming up with MHP we'll have to move to another night!  - secretagentangel  2915.7 #43 11:29PM
I'm gonna have a crowding meetup Presidents' Day weekend! Post to come!  - TinkerSchelle  1874.4 #85 5:42PM
I'll crowd with you  - LaPearleNoir  1730.0 #95 2:27PM
I ❀️ crowding meetups - bonedaddy909  1439.0 #112 12:29PM
Would love to come! - susanann  8.9 #11392 6:15PM
What day works best for you guys bonedaddy909 and susanann and LaPearleNoir? - TinkerSchelle  1874.4 #85 1:21PM
Any day Friday theough Monday works for me! - susanann  8.9 #11392 2:12PM
Friday thru Sunday for UsπŸ˜ƒ.....Wait a minute😳what the heck is a crowding meetup and what would we be crowding into??πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ - bonedaddy909  1439.0 #112 7:09PM
I am going 10/31! - 714jen  17.1 #7731 12:18AM
We'll be there 10/31 - kimm84  115.3 #3280 6:23PM

Deadliest Cast Member Season One & Two + VOYAGEERS Multiplaner & Great Storyteller are both available to read on Kindle Unlimited! You can sign up for a free 30 day trial of Kindle Unlimited and read all four books at no charge! Go here to access the books on Amazon. Thanks for your support! 

- MommyandBash  331.6 #716 4:52PM
- MissAmericaSings  401.4 #539 7:58AM
Got them all, and extras! - jacdanfan  10815.9 #3 1:54PM
- MommyandBash  331.6 #716 9:22PM

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