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Mar 7, 2013 9:14 AM  Disneyland Talk Land
Good morning! This day in Disney history, March 7th,1997. Pirates of the Caribbean reopens after being renovated. In its original form, the Disneyland attraction contained a scene in which pirates were shown chasing women in circles. Along a "comical" reversal in which an overweight woman was seen chasing a pirate. When guests were offended by this depiction, Disney initially changed the woman chasing the pirate by having her try to hit him w/a rolling pin. In 1997, this scene was changed so that the pirates pursued women holding pies, & the large woman is chasing a pirate w/a stolen ham. However, the audio of the women's giggles while being chased remained despite complaints. Sometime after this the audio was also removed. In addition, originally, one overweight pirate (sometimes known as the "Pooped Pirate", pictured below) was shown exhausted from his pursuit of an unwilling teenaged female. He brandished a petticoat as guests floated past & uttered suggestive dialogue, including: "It's sore I be to hoist me colors upon the likes of that shy little wench", & "I be willing to share, I be". Behind him, the woman he had been pursuing would anxiously peer out from her hiding place inside a barrel. In the refurbishment, the "Pooped Pirate" was recast as the Gluttonous Pirate, a rogue in search of food. His dialogue included lines such as: "Me belly be feeling like galleon w/a load of treasure", & "I be looking for a fine pork loin, I be". The woman hiding in the barrel was replaced by a cat. Do you prefer the current version of POTC w/Jack, Jones & Barbosa? Or do you miss the 1997 version? Or perhaps the original 1967 one? Why?

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My mom's favorite ride! She never saw the addition of Captain Jack but she did see the change that Lilsterner mentioned....and was not happy! Every time I ride POTC my thoughts turn to how much fun she had on it...the drops were as close to a thrill ride that she ever wanted to go on. I have to admit I usually get misty eyed riding it as I pretend she is sitting next to me. - Gia  802.0 #213 10:02AM
Awe! Again with a super sweet story! πŸ˜‰ My favorite attraction as well! - Duchess_SMK  6112.9 #15 10:35AM
😊😊😘 - DisneyFanZoe  1228.0 #129 10:46AM
So sweet. - LisaMouse7531  410.1 #506 12:53PM
What a wonderful memory - that-goofy-girl  5.8 #15428 7:39PM
I miss the original scene with the women being chased. That was more realistic! When the change was made to chasing food I was surprised at the addition of the overweight woman chasing the ham. I thought it was funny that there was a change to be PC in one aspect but just became as stereotypical in another one. I miss the funny historical aspect of the original but I don't mind the addition of Jack, Barbosa, and Davey Jones. - LilSterner  5033.0 #20 9:22AM
My thoughts exactly lol - rbeezy  703.0 #253 9:41AM
I also liked the women chasing the men and thought it weird at the time of why it was changed. It wasn't until I got older I realized why it was changed, I liked it the old way since that was just a pirates life to me! - pixiedreamer  151.4 #2620 9:50AM
Politically correct wins again. πŸ˜” - Duchess_SMK  6112.9 #15 10:13AM
Thanks for typing that out for me. Agree with everything. Funny>fake PC. As a kid I thought the chase was the funniest part. - Westcoast  151.7 #2614 11:32AM
I feel the same way! - AKMouse  473.2 #421 4:01PM
I agree. I loved the humor of the original and every time I go through I miss it in that section. I don't miss the women giggling. - Zipadeedoodah  215.1 #1733 7:55PM
Original all the way, baby! - MeridaFan  3578.6 #36 9:17AM
☺ Ok, fair, but why? - Duchess_SMK  6112.9 #15 9:37AM
It's what I grew up with. Every time I go by that one part, I can still picture the pirate holding the slipper and veil, and see the girl popping out of the barrel with the candle. That said, I also love the Jack Sparrow additions! πŸ˜„ So at least they made a good swap there. - MeridaFan  3578.6 #36 9:40AM
I'll never complain about Jack being there either but yes, the original had more character to me! - Duchess_SMK  6112.9 #15 10:21AM
Since I didn't go on the attraction until about 2002ish, I never saw the original. But, after watching those DL sing-a-long videos, I always feared that the hanging barrels at the end were going to explode (like in the videos), but realized that it was just for TV. - BaseballMickey_CM  7103.5 #9 10:10AM
I love the original and grew up with it. I do however like the integration of Jack Sparrow, Barbosa & DJ. This was well done! Thank you Duchess! - ShariRenee  6274.1 #14 10:23AM
I miss the chase scenes but I enjoy the Jack /Barbosa additions. I really enjoy "This Day in Disney History" posts, Thank you! - GrumpyPirateDad  1845.9 #81 10:35AM
Especially when I can visit the attraction or topic of the history. Thanks again for sharing - GrumpyPirateDad  1845.9 #81 8:13PM
It didn't like when they changed it, but do like it be since the added Sparrow, and Barbosa . Cool pic by the way! - 7mouskedoodles  361.0 #597 10:49AM
Thanks, that's a lot of history. - GoofyJoe  1906.6 #77 11:00AM
I liked the original version. I never understood why they felt a need to be politically correct in some areas, but not in others, ie...auctioning off rope bound women. Puzzling. However, I do like the newest version with all the character additions. - DisneyGrandma  865.4 #199 11:02AM
Excellent point! - MeridaFan  3578.6 #36 3:20PM
Agreed - Plumiegirl  9177.1 #4 7:42PM
Every time I ride I miss the original one. I don't understand the change and never will. I also remember at the end of the ride while going back up, there was a pirate trying to steal a bag of treasure. - adventurerEnDisneylandia {AED}  1028.2 #168 11:02AM
I liked the original and was sad they gave in to PC pressure. The Jack Sparrow addition feels commercial to me. I miss the original battle scene. - happiestplace  152.8 #2595 11:10AM
I loved the old version. I'm not a huge fan of the newer one. My favorite part is Carlos.. and the red head of course lol - fairyshley  479.8 #413 11:41AM
I prefer the pre 97 version. This was my dads favorite ride and he always had a big smile when riding POTC. He passed away in 97 so he never saw the refurb. Thanks for this post πŸ‘ - philliprocks  1168.2 #140 12:13PM
Thanks for the great information! I have that scene of the young woman popping up out of the barrel in my head now. I forgot about that scene. I liked the pre 97 version of pirates and personally I didn't notice the dialog in that scene because there was so much going on. - leftmyheartinwonderland  359.9 #601 12:46PM
I always found it hysterical that they got rid of this scene but left in the women being auctioned off....You'd think that is a lot more offensive than being chased around - Dave  12984.7 #2 12:52PM
We live in a funny world. - adventurerEnDisneylandia {AED}  1028.2 #168 12:56PM
I guess paid is better than free. - madsdad  1868.1 #79 1:12PM
exactly - cesium55  531.6 #369 1:30PM
At 6 years old I clearly remember the original pirates chasing the wenches ... 25 years later I still miss the original... Thank u for the history facts on this ride! 😊 - MaliceInWonderland  37.0 #5112 1:03PM
Love disney history. Thanks for sharing. - Splashmountgirl  337.1 #672 1:21PM
Wonderful history! I like this newest version not a big fan of assault - Tealtownfan  1015.5 #172 2:55PM
I don't like the new additions to POTC, and was really bummed the first time I rode it and saw Captain Jack. I get it, and I understand why they did it, but if I had my way, they would never really change anything in the Disney parks...just expand it :) - CountryBearTrixie  210.8 #1792 4:12PM
i think people that got offended are dumb, you cant just go back and change history and what happened in those times, that's how things were, men chased girls, i havent seen that change still in these times, people are too sensative and need to grow a harder shell, you cant live under your protective shell forever - zombiesix  260.4 #1189 6:22PM
This day in history has to be one of my faves so far! Thank you for posting this. POTC is my favorite attraction since I could remember! Love everything about it including all of its history!! :) - MagicalLand  414.2 #499 7:30PM
This was my dad's FAVORITE ride! He had to go on it every single time we were there! The kids still mention something funny he said or did on this ride, every time we ride it now! It will always remind me of him!! Thanks for sharing this... It made me smile! - MrsPrinceCharming 8:19PM
Amazing as usual!! I had no idea about all the switches. How times change. I love the tubby guy who's all full and glutinous! Thanks for the history lesson as always 😘 - CourtyAstroBlisters  753.8 #232 8:50PM
As always Duchess_SMK your This Day in History posts are genius! I like the way they added Captain Jack and company! They did it without being overwhelming. But all in all I liked the original, it depicted they way I thought pirates would act! Aarrgghhh!βš“ - Boundin  613.1 #308 8:52PM
Thanks, I LOVE your history posts!! I have the entire Pirates soundtrack before 1997 with the old, "sore I be..." So that explains it, thanks! - adisneyfamily  866.1 #198 9:21AM
Oh good! So happy you enjoy these! Happy to have solved that puzzle for you. 😘 - Duchess_SMK  6112.9 #15 9:35AM
I'd enjoy his suggestive comments. - madsdad  1868.1 #79 9:21AM
For some reason this doesn't surprise me. πŸ˜‚ - Duchess_SMK  6112.9 #15 9:24AM
I would love if they kept it all! - MomWithAJuiceBoxBuzz  1175.4 #138 9:28AM
Kept all the original? - Duchess_SMK  6112.9 #15 9:50AM
I grew up with the original from 1967. I miss several parts of this attraction that have been changed over the years. I'm sure that Duchess will provide the details of those later this month when we have another awesome Disney History from her... I will say that, true to Disney's high quality art and imagination, the renovation is a very nice upgrade. Thank you SMK for this Disney History and for clearing up the sometimes misunderstood facts about the reasons for the changes on this great attraction. - IMissDisney  1205.7 #133 9:43AM
The anniversary is coming! Very excited. ::giggles:: thanks for the support as as always my friend! - Duchess_SMK  6112.9 #15 10:51AM
I like the original. It fits historically but it wasn't until recently when I listened to the soundtrack that I noticed the "Hoist me colors" line and actually know what he's talking about. Oh my! - cesium55  531.6 #369 9:46AM
πŸ˜³πŸ˜πŸ™ˆ - Duchess_SMK  6112.9 #15 11:16AM
The original just captured the "pirate life" it was a classic. It's sad how people let a ride offend them instead of enjoying it for what it was made for "fun" - justinschu4  36.0 #5165 9:47AM
Can never make everyone happy I suppose...::shrug:: - Duchess_SMK  6112.9 #15 4:15PM
I will never understand the fascination with pirates in general. People do understand what a pirate is right? Murderer and thief and many other unmentionables. I mean why is it ok to have women tied up and auctioned off to the highest bidder but people thought those other things were offensive? - dolewhipkarlita  83.1 #3752 3:05PM
I don't think we think of that part of a pirate. But the freedom they had, the adventure! Treasure hunting, being on the open seas! We try and be positive, and look for the best in people. That includes pirates. - LilMissPixie84  309.5 #801 3:13PM
The pirates depicted in Disney's classic stories (like Peter Pan and Treasure Island) are shown as "bad guys", however these are kid stories. Adventure and freedom are emphasized over the more seedy side of piracy. Pirates of the Caribbean has been a wonderful and fun attraction for almost 50 years! Any kid will tell you how cool it is. - IMissDisney  1205.7 #133 3:43PM
I have also thought that! I remember being like geez. This is kind of intense. The women are crying as they're basically sold into slavery, but I also agree with mypark and LMSP. I think disney was shooin for The pirates that had adventure. However, the ride more depicts drunke'n ported who are stealing and selling women. I think you both bring up really valid points. We also have to remember that when This ride was created political correctness was not nearly as popular or enforced as it is today. - BellesLibrary  407.2 #514 4:08PM

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Innoventions closed March 31-September 30


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Luigi's Rollickin Roadsters opens early 2016
 

Were visiting during the diamond celebration.  I'm so excited because all of our favorite rides will be open! - Dsc1983  16.2 #7634 10:53PM
Awesome! Can't wait! - PrincessDaisy  322.5 #737 8:33AM
The weather is ok,t shirt and sweater,jeans,a coat at night(layer and you'll be fine)...it's busy but you're coming at a really good time.you will love it😊and if you have park hoppers for each day you will be able to go back n forth...I live 15 mins away so you can always message me if you need more details or have any weird questions... - DarthFairy  59.2 #4272 7:31PM
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Purchased the Voyageers book through this link so MW benefits twice  - UTDISNEYFAMILY  1628.4 #96 4:48PM
Spent $490 on it the other day - CVDisneyland  387.4 #547 12:40PM
Thank you! - Admin  5:04PM
I buy pretty much everything on Amazon. Nice to know MW can get a little piece of that! - MellyMelBB  65.0 #4123 12:06AM
I will do this next time I'm on Amazon! - DisneyLov3r  6.5 #0 5:02PM


 
Deadliest Cast Member SEASON TWO is here! Find out what really happened on Disneyland's 50th Anniversary. Twenty-four hours or real-time action, authentic Disneyland history, and a finale that you'll never forget. EVENTS OCCUR IN REAL TIME. Download it to any device from Amazon here.

Will there be a Season 3??  Please??? - YoPirate  630.0 #296 8:03PM
I bought the paper copy for myself and 2 copies of season one for christmas gifts!  LOVE THIS BOOK!!! - snitsos  30.0 #5611 5:28PM
Thank you snitsos for your support, glad you liked Season Two! - Admin  12:13AM
Thank you for your support glad you liked Season Two! snitsos - Admin  12:15AM
Test - Admin  12:16AM
- valj84DisneyDeppAddict  201.3 #1901 9:35PM
They make paper copies?!? - LilMissPixie84  309.5 #801 9:23PM

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Credits have been applied to everyone's account as of today! - Admin 11:40AM
I just called them to price out our potential trip in June. Chris was so nice and the MW savings are phenomenal! Still waiting on work vacation approval to reserve the room!  - HNL2SFO  205.4 #1856 1:26PM
What percentage saving are we looking at for being MouseWaiters? Is it better than a AAA discount.  - MoChuck  128.5 #2974 3:57PM
@Admin. I filled out a form for May 22nd.  I hope you got it. Thanks. - Winnie111286  4511.6 #23 2:23AM
@@Admin I booked with get away today and am staying at the HoJo in December.  Does MW still give the 100 credits or do I have to book with the hotel directly? - dsnylvr1975  6.9 #13193 5:02PM

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Nice pic!πŸ“· - Stitchcrazy62622  16.8 #7500 10:18PM
Oh how we miss you MSEP... 😩😩😩 - DisneyBallers  25.7 #6018 10:05PM

Download VOYAGEERS to your device today! Discover the VOYAGEERS Society, and the magical Main Street Realm in this action packed adventure for kids of ALL ages! Also available on iBooks and Kobo. Follow the VOYAGEERS on Facebook for more info and behind the scenes exclusives.

Like normal I am late to the party. Reading it now - Tealtownfan  1015.5 #172 3:13PM
Got it! More than halfway thru it! It's a lot of fun!!!πŸ‘πŸ‘βœ¨βœ¨ - TinkerSchelle  1776.5 #86 10:53PM
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Weeeeee - MommyandBash  181.6 #2163 10:29PM

Here are the latest Disneyland Real-Time Land posts. If you're at the Park, please post in Disneyland Real-Time Land, thanks for posting live pics!



Hey I'm finally on this list πŸ˜„πŸ‘πŸŽ‰ - Sweet_Irish_Cream  4399.0 #26 10:39PM
Your always on the list!!! πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚list of what I don't know😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝. Jk - Fantasmicfan1  1375.8 #112 12:34PM
Love seeing everyone's pictures from Disneyland !! I know, we always have a good time :) - Lyssa2012  196.1 #1975 11:22PM
i am so glad i got to experience it,  but did not have to go thru it! - MsTikiMermadam  370.5 #576 5:56AM
Sweet, I have 3 on this list!!  - MisFit.Mouse  627.6 #299 2:52AM
After all of this time being away and I made the list - cyndaws  257.9 #1211 1:45AM

Disneyland unFORECAST (BETA) is here! Top MouseWaiters giving you the rundown of what's happening at the Disneyland Resort. The unFORECAST now has its own page on the web www.unFORECAST.com

unFORECAST for the week of Aug 3, 2015
It's going to be HOT at Disneyland this week with weather in the high 80s. Looking back at MouseWait's Historical Crowd Index (available in our new MagicPlan iOS Calendar), this week last year averaged in the low 70s (approx 70% capacity), which is light for summer crowds. We expect it to be busier this week, however the hot weather does play a factor in crowd level as it tends to keep the locals away. To get a real-time look at crowd levels, check the MouseWait app for Crowd Index averages and wait times. Have a great week! - Admin Aug 3, 2015 11:58AM



We have always noticed that Saturdays are better than Sundays! We always come on the weekend and say we want to leave at dinner time on Sunday, but always leave by 11-12 because there are so many people. We love Saturday!! - 1Princess3Princes  488.4 #404 5:39PM
I agree. I think it has to do with most passes being blocked - PoohSizedGuy  18.6 #7122 11:53PM
Saturday's rule! One of the perks of a premium pass!  - snappy  383.1 #555 7:32AM
I love these posts!  I do have a question/request/suggestion...is there a way to only show the 3-4 most recent posts?  It's a lot to scroll through. @@Admin - TiggersAndTinks  160.8 #2482 5:08AM
I second this. The info is great to have, but it's too long.  - 1HitchhikingGhost  239.1 #1420 5:04PM
summer surely has been very busy!  - MarshaMouse  4704.3 #22 12:18AM
I was there this week, Tues, Wed.,Thur. Very hot and muggy. Long lines except single rider lines were great. Because we had 3 days we didn't mind waiting in line. It's so fun to people watch while you wait. We had a great time. Can't wait until next time to go back. - Popcorn  9.3 #10619 9:33AM

What if Walt never dreamed of Disneyland? What would your life be like? What would the world be like? Get Book Two of the VOYAGEERS Saga - The Great Storyteller - on Amazon. Buy the Paperback and get the Kindle version FREE! 

Thank you Admin! This book is a great read. I recommend it to anyone who is a Disney fan. Can't wait for the next one! - grumpypapa  3372.3 #38 8:38PM
Thank you for reading! - Admin  6:26PM
cant wait to read it - ebugsmama  18.1 #7217 10:32PM
After the video my 3 & 1/2 year old says, "that's cool!" It was. Very cool - MommyandBash  181.6 #2163 3:44PM
- MommyandBash  181.6 #2163 1:32PM

Play Disneyland Trivia with your friends for FREE! See the list of TRIVILATOR usernames on this page. Play from any device with our new web version

Cool admin. Hope I do better than the first one. Hope people that enter will be ready to play and the tournament moves along better - Goofytom  1201.5 #135 6:41PM
I will announce the December tournament date this week. - Admin 11:58PM
Can't wait! - sawman911  670.9 #277 6:30PM
There should be a droid version of this. I. would love to play  - bryanjung1997  1.1 #65955 2:19PM
I end up deleting games while in progress due to opponents leaving me hanging FOR-EH-VER!!! - MommyandBash  181.6 #2163 12:18PM
It happens, if you want start a game and I'll play you. I take a couple days off a week but I'll finish the games I start. - richiii3  677.4 #269 2:20PM

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We have our weekly MW sticker meetup at La Brea bakery at 4 pm in Downtown Disney! Lots of fun for newcomers and all and a great way to meet new people! Then we go to the MW spot we've held in DL to watch PTN and fireworks! Everyone is welcome! - secretagentangel  1954.6 #75 6:10PM
On Tuesday nights, duh!!!πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜© - secretagentangel  1954.6 #75 10:47PM
Thank You - suzieq65  54.6 #4396 6:20PM
We will be there in November - makeitbluesaysmerriwether  35.5 #5193 9:58AM
I'm gonna have a crowding meetup Presidents' Day weekend! Post to come!  - TinkerSchelle  1776.5 #86 5:42PM
I'll crowd with you  - LaPearleNoir  1638.0 #95 2:27PM
I ❀️ crowding meetups - bonedaddy909  1349.0 #114 12:29PM
Would love to come! - susanann  8.9 #10915 6:15PM
What day works best for you guys bonedaddy909 and susanann and LaPearleNoir? - TinkerSchelle  1776.5 #86 1:21PM
Any day Friday theough Monday works for me! - susanann  8.9 #10915 2:12PM
Friday thru Sunday for UsπŸ˜ƒ.....Wait a minute😳what the heck is a crowding meetup and what would we be crowding into??πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ - bonedaddy909  1349.0 #114 7:09PM
I heard there's a cool Winchester Mystery House meetup 😬 - adventurerEnDisneylandia {AED}  1028.2 #168 7:17PM
Any MW Tinkerbell half marathon weekend runners interested in a photo op meet-up/s before one or all 3 of the races??Β  - Romec123aKaSmartyPants  720.8 #249 2:11PM
When is this race? - secretagentangel  1954.6 #75 6:15PM
The 5K is May 8th, 10K May 9th, and the Half is May 10th. - CoachDisney  94.1 #3567 2:43PM
I will for the 5k, will be there Thursday afternoon till Friday noon. - Sleepingbeautysmom  305.3 #827 8:17AM


 
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