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Aug 26, 2012 11:07 AM  Disneyland Talk Land
Question for all of the MWs out there who do not live in SoCal. When you plan your DL trip do you usually use a travel agent or do you book flight and hotel/park package seperately? I think we are going to use a travel agent this time. It just seems easier and we are getting a good deal through them.

First thing you should know, if you didn't, you do not pay to use a travel agent. Some agents or agencies might charge a small fee for large trips, that require a lot of work. Travel agents are knowledable and often times are able to have access to fantastic deals from vendors. I live in NorCal, and I do not use an agent for my trips to DL, but I encourage folks that live a few states over or are out of the country, to utilize the services of an agent. They do all the work for you, so you can just enjoy. :) 😊 - DisneyFanZoe  1106.9 #128 12:32PM
then why do they have a business where people are paying them and it ain't no small fee - AZDizFanEMT  10.7 #8621 1:08PM
AZ~Huh?? I used to have an agency. My $ came more from commission through the various business I was connected with. A small fee would be charged for building itineraries and other such items that require time. Travel agents are like any other profession yet people dont want to pay a fee. I had clients willing to pay $1,000's on trips but would balk at my fee of $40-50 to plan their trip for them. In addition, to being there for them when they missed flight, cruises and other unexpected events. I highly appreciate DFZ's comment!! - Romec123aKaSmartyPants  627.2 #264 2:35PM
😊😊 I'm often boggled by the misunderstanding people have of travel agents. How are experts in the travel industry a bad thing to turn to? Crazy... - DisneyFanZoe  1106.9 #128 2:55PM
I use Agent P - Mouse4life  1150.2 #117 11:24AM
I wouldn't normally consider a travel agent but used one for our coming trip. Flights you don't get much of a deal and pay the travel agent I think but we got $30 off our tickets booking through an agent and the best part was our hotel which we got at least $300 off for 8 nights compared to the cheapest I found online. On top of that you pay for your room up front and don't have to worry about it when you get there as well as if anything were to happen your travel agent would deal with it and you could get your money back. Just because you find it online doesn't mean you get the best deals lol. - DaisyCrazy  255.1 #1160 12:22PM
What's a travel agent? LOL. We NEVER use a travel agent. I do my research on the internet and piece our vacations together to get the best deal and experience for the price. - NurseDisney  29.7 #5213 11:11AM
we live in AZ so no flying but we do it ourselves, you pay travel agents to do everything you can do yourself for free - AZDizFanEMT  10.7 #8621 11:15AM
You do not pay travel agents. - DisneyFanZoe  1106.9 #128 12:52PM
uh sorry they do get paid, have fam members that are and they're not getting paid cuz of their good looks - AZDizFanEMT  10.7 #8621 12:59PM
So they ARE getting paid for their work like anyone else. Why pay a mechanic when you can fix a car yourself? I had a Smart friend tell me she did better than me in planning her out of the country vacation where I had already gone and was familiar with. She got a great hotel for a great price. When she returned home she told me her great hotel was in a red light district. She was so scared and uncomfortable because she was alone that she left her room a total of 4 times in 8 days. Great ol Internet! - Romec123aKaSmartyPants  627.2 #264 2:43PM
Of course agents get PAID, but the client does NOT pay them. They are paid by the commissions they make from the vendors. - DisneyFanZoe  1106.9 #128 2:48PM
Pretty sure you only pay travel agents for plane tickets everything else is commission from the vendors. Plus you can usually get the best deals available. I also must add that by taking jobs away by doing things "yourself" hurts the economy and more people will loose jobs as businesses cant afford to keep up with costs (photography, travel agents etc) And I'm saying this as a general comment not a attack on your post :) - DaisyCrazy  255.1 #1160 1:10PM
From when i have done it, the travel agent still has to go through the disney website we go through. We booked through costco one year and seemed like a great deal. - DisneyVacationLover  343.7 #599 11:16AM
No need for a travel agent. Use the Internet for flights and Priceline for hotels. Travel agents can't get better pricing on DL tickets than you can on your own. - IMissDisney  1195.5 #108 11:16AM
i work for a hotel in pasadena ca. if you do a little research it will be allot cheaper. promise - Hendizl  2439.9 #42 11:16AM
Hi! I live in Pasadena! 😊 I just think its nice to know that there's MW's in the neighborhood! - gigibunny2  242.8 #1304 2:52PM
Live in Utah and we do our own booking. I check all the travel websites. - jjdq  338.0 #615 11:29AM
We have APs so no tickets needed, we drive so no flight needed and as for the hotel you can book it with a great deal at the official MW hotel the HoJo. - PlutosBuddy  403.2 #470 11:35AM
I tried the Disney website then booking a flight but it really wasn't that much cheaper. With the travel agent price we get flight, transportation to and from the hotel, room and tickets and a character breakfast for $1000.00 per person. Getting there on a Sunday and leaving the next Sunday. - Cinderkelly  55.7 #4138 11:39AM
If you are out of the US I would say use an agent, otherwise do some research and book it yourself. Package deals are usually the best value, IMO. - Linzee  793.5 #189 11:40AM
Yea no way! I plan it wayyyyyyy in advance and wait for airline tickets to get super cheap and buy. Plus we go during the week when crowds are lower and hotels cheaper. :) you don't need a TA to do that - disneymomma87  205.5 #1783 11:43AM
I like getawaytoday.com. They saved us tons over doing it ourselves. - HasAnyoneSeenMyGlassSlipper  613.3 #274 11:48AM
They saved us more than the 25% off pin I got from Disney. - HasAnyoneSeenMyGlassSlipper  613.3 #274 1:57PM
Mostly do it on my own. AAA sometimes - E-Ticket  1073.2 #133 11:51AM
We live in AZ and we drive, we also make our own hotel reservations. - MikeyMouse  88.8 #3510 11:54AM
I'm my very own travel agent hehe ! I think to me it's just easy that way : ) - jmza4  257.5 #31532 11:55AM
Nope, we live in central cali and drive. I always find a better deal than a travel agent, usually save $200 doing things myself - GoofyMom77  470.9 #387 12:02PM
We don't use a travel agent either. Just book online. - MinnieKimmy  210.8 #1720 12:03PM
LOL! Ya I know you don't (this is my sister!) You should Consider it this time. - Cinderkelly  55.7 #4138 12:39PM
walt disney travil all the way love it and they are great - mousedaddy  261.8 #1099 12:04PM
Are they different from booking through the Disney website? - Cinderkelly  55.7 #4138 12:48PM
We usually do all of it ourselves.. but this time we went thru a TA/AAA and got a great deal. 4 day pass to the parks, 3 nights at Marriott, transportation from airport to hotel and back and breakfast every morning for 3 adults $1202.00 got flight for $68 each - 2mousears  16.1 #6949 12:11PM
No need for travel agent is why my and so many agencies went defunct. - Romec123aKaSmartyPants  627.2 #264 12:55PM
I'm sorry to hear that. Technology can be a double edged sword. - PartOfYourWorld  74.5 #3721 1:27PM
I book all of our own vacations, including our Disneyland/Cruise vacation in November. :D - MrsMears  214.6 #1661 1:01PM
I just booked our DL trip myself after getting a quote from a travel agent. They were charging $1000 more than booking it online myself. Why pay more than you have to? - PrincessDelaine  187.4 #2011 2:08PM
You should check out getawaytoday.com. They saved us tons and are experts on the local hotels in Anahiem. Great customer service as well! - HasAnyoneSeenMyGlassSlipper  613.3 #274 1:08PM
I always use a travel agent. They have saved me so much money. Able to set up military discounts for my dad, cheaper hotels I could go on. - JediTrance  71.3 #3783 1:42PM
I'm local, so this doesn't technically count. But I've used hotels.com to book a couple nights stay near the resort, and saved a LOT of $$$!! - GrimGrinningAmanda  660.1 #246 1:54PM

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I agree!  - Dizkid  348.8 #582 6:28PM

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Get 100 Credits for staying at the Hojo Anaheim! Just fill out this form and we'll get the Credits added to your account. When you stay at the Hojo, you help us continue to improve MouseWait. Call their in house reservation number and remember to mention MouseWait--you will love everything about the Hojo!

Credits have been applied to everyone's account as of today! - Admin 11:40AM
I still have not received my credits from the birthday bash? - smanr24  80.9 #3624 6:01PM
I just called them to price out our potential trip in June. Chris was so nice and the MW savings are phenomenal! Still waiting on work vacation approval to reserve the room!  - HNL2SFO  205.3 #1790 1:26PM
What percentage saving are we looking at for being MouseWaiters? Is it better than a AAA discount.  - MoChuck  10.7 #8647 3:57PM
Hi Admin. Stayed at Hojo on 7/3. Filled out form. Hope you got it. - Winnie111286  876.4 #167 10:27PM
I was wondering if I should fill out another form? I don't want to duplicate.  - Winnie111286  876.4 #167 11:19PM
Hi @Admin. I'm hoping you process my form so I can have credits for tomorrow. - Winnie111286  876.4 #167 1:59PM
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Just used this! Plus bought voyageers books to read to my boy!  - mousekachef  4.3 #18523 2:20PM

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Here are the Top 10 MouseWaiters of All-Time:

1. Coaster
14226.2

2. Dave
11005.9

3. Plumiegirl
7791.55

4. apesandmonkeys
7550.98

5. uscdisneyteacher
7117.78

6. CobbPR
6671.74

7. Bullseye
6666.7

8. jacdanfan
6455.02

9. Sonja
6427.48

10. Tom
6408.46


Mr.7, that was fast. And I think it's been less than a year since you joined right? Thanks for sharing your talent with us - philliprocks  783.3 #193 6:08PM
Haha - SnoopMousyMouse  40.9 #0 12:33PM
Number 6 now - philliprocks   783.3 #193 2:09PM
5* - -MizzMadHatter-  109.9 #3207 3:25PM
Thank you for your contributions! - Song  1547.2 #80 11:18AM
Congrats @@apesandmonkeys for making it to the top 10  - SafariSkewerJessica  1189.8 #109 10:53AM
Congrats to all! Yay jacdanfan! - DizneyGirl  569.3 #8 7:20PM
LOL!  Please join me for a . We need a Club Kool sticker! - jacdanfan  6455.0 #8 8:28PM
For you, jacdanfan, I'd drink a Beverly :) - DizneyGirl  569.3 #8 1:14PM

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Credits Hall of Fame. This real-time list honors the top Credits purchasers by showing the total number of Credits purchased. These MouseWaiters play an integral part in helping us maintain and innovate. Thank you to everyone who buys Credits in the MW iOS app, TRIVILATOR, and MagicRace!

1. iLOVELUCYnDISNEY
14250

2. debbiev
12250

3. MeridaFan
11130

4. DisneyGrandma
10500

5. secretagentangel
10400

6. jacdanfan
10000

7. MinnieMyLove
9750

8. luxkitty
9175

9. PrincessCindy
8900

10. leopardditz2000
8250

 

A list I made....for spending money!! Figures... - debbiev  771.9 #197 2:42PM
Lol - robmurow  3018.9 #32 4:03PM
Ha hahahaha!  Yeah. I won't be telling my husband about this list. Not that he'd be surprised. πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ - MeridaFan  3248.6 #27 6:28PM
Haha, @MeridaFan my husband knows me too well!! - debbiev  771.9 #197 10:06PM
Me too! hahahaha - luxkitty  1289.4 #97 8:34PM
πŸ’ΈπŸ’ΈπŸ’ΈπŸ’ΈπŸ’Έ - debbiev  771.9 #197 11:31AM
This list is awesome!!!! LOL We already know Dave spends the most on food and 2BON2B spends the most on dolls. It's funny to think of other possibilities! Great job contributing everyone!!! - MrsSchnooks  2674.5 #36 11:54AM
I just figured out that if you buy 1500 at a time it is a major deal.  but then you get too tempted and buy EVERYTHING!!!!!:D - secretagentangel  1239.0 #100 8:57PM
The dolls! πŸ‘€ - missariel33  1394.7 #88 8:01PM
I spend too much $$ on Disney purses. luxkitty can you relate? Lol - apesandmonkeys  7551.0 #4 9:43PM
Yep @apesandmonkeys lol - luxkitty  1289.4 #97 5:01PM
 Spend too much on everything!  πŸ˜‚ - MeridaFan  3248.6 #27 3:06PM
Shhh!😳😳don't tell my husband πŸ˜‚ - 2BeignetOrNot2Beignet  877.1 #166 10:00PM
woo hoo i broke into the top 10 lol - draven898  256.9 #1141 10:58PM
I bought my first credits today. - Winnie111286  876.4 #167 5:05PM

La Brea Bakery is the Official Restaurant of MouseWait! Thank you for supporting our partners. Join us Tuesdays 8pm at La Brea for Sticker Night. La Brea offers MouseWaiters a 15% discount during official MouseWait Meetups (Sticker Nights every Tuesday night, and other meetups that we announce in the Lounge).

Yay! Thanks for joining this awesome community! - simba77  311.3 #728 10:04PM
- luxkitty  1289.4 #97 3:11PM
- CaptainMouse777  7.6 #10910 9:18AM
- marisadel  6.7 #12045 8:11PM

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Here is the Overall Quality Top 10 real-time list. Follow these MouseWaiters for great content:

1. CobbPR
6302

2. uscdisneyteacher
5482

3. MrMOMzers
4176

4. BaseballMickey_CM
4110

5. Duchess_SMK
3956

6. Dave
3906

7. Stitch_Legacy
3906

8. LoneRAYnger
3554

9. Plumiegirl
3494

10. apesandmonkeys
3394



SEE THE TOP 100

Take me to your Quality Leaders - MelodyMouse  2681.3 #35 1:04PM
good job, love your posts - snowgrey  4.1 #19289 4:50PM
There it is? - hearic  12.4 #7971 10:34AM
There what is? - Sweet_Irish_Cream  3689.8 #26 9:23PM
Sweet_Irish_Cream - I believe the answer is "Whoomp" πŸ˜‚ - DisneyDavidEMT  1551.0 #79 8:23PM
Tag team, back again - hearic  12.4 #7971 9:15AM
Hahaha. I just saw David's comment DisneyDavidEMT - Sweet_Irish_Cream  3689.8 #26 10:08PM
....aaaand I'm off the board.... - Sweet_Irish_Cream  3689.8 #26 9:23PM
You'll get back on it again - Goofytom  736.2 #209 3:35PM
Not a big deal - Plumiegirl  7791.6 #3 10:55PM
I think I replied to the wrong post, sorry! - hearic  12.4 #7971 11:38AM
We still like your just not as much.  - philliprocks   783.3 #193 10:48PM
stop complaining Hippie - Dave   11005.9 #2 4:11PM

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Here are the upcoming MouseWait Events. You can post your event on mobile here, and on the web here. Thanks!

1. MouseWait's 5th Birthday Bash!
Oct 11, 2014 05:00pm


Thank you!! My birthday is April 29th & I just realized that we will have been moved down by then. Time to plan a birthday bash! πŸ˜ŽπŸ‘ - apesandmonkeys  7551.0 #4 9:08PM
We need to celebrate!! - Superspacemountainfan  69.2 #3828 2:03PM
We share the same birthday! Happy a early Birthday!! - BriarRose110511  230.7 #1449 9:03PM
That's so cool!!! Same to you πŸŒΊπŸ’œπŸŒΊπŸ’œ - apesandmonkeys  7551.0 #4 12:36AM
If I get my health back on track with my new insurance and we somehow get my brother helped, I will post a join me for my first ride on RSR party, my brother can't go on, and I have been so sick and felt bad about going in front with the old pass.  I will post one in june. maybe it can be the lets all go on the attractions we have never been on before event. - secretagentangel  1239.0 #100 4:31PM
Wish there was a meetup sometime during august 6-10. Haha.  - emmkay_ell  24.4 #5687 11:48AM
Create one!! Go to Navigate, click Events and add one 😊 - HandMeAChurroImmaFaint  3911.4 #23 7:22PM
I can do that?! (: - emmkay_ell  24.4 #5687 8:56PM
That's my wedding day! :) How exciting!  - RetroMinnie  52.5 #4224 6:54PM
Come to the Bash in your dress, please! - JenGwen323  1099.8 #129 9:53PM

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MONTHLY OVERALL REAL-TIME LEADERBOARD

1. apesandmonkeys
516

2. HandMeAChurroImmaFaint
491

3. goofygal
235

4. HARR_E
217

5. grumpypapa
202

6. jacdanfan
197

7. pikarich
182

8. FrankenweenieVelinee
163

9. uscdisneyteacher
159

10. DisneyDavidEMT
149



SEE TOP 100 LEADERS

That's a great month!! Great MWers, thanks for the QC everyone!! πŸ’– - adisneyfamily  680.4 #232 9:33AM
Add me please! This is an amazing RAK. Thank you! - nursecolie  137.2 #2751 5:52PM
I made number 19!!! whooohooo - evilemohand  172.8 #2212 8:51PM
Now at 16.. whoohoo - evilemohand  172.8 #2212 8:16PM
Now 15... I better get a move on - evilemohand  172.8 #2212 4:56PM
Number 10  - FrankenweenieVelinee  1153.7 #116 4:50PM
Congrats! - debbiev  771.9 #197 5:48PM
Thank you my sista πŸŽƒπŸŽƒπŸ’•πŸ’•πŸ’• - FrankenweenieVelinee  1153.7 #116 8:43PM
#9! I'm 59 something. I guess thats better than nothing - philliprocks   783.3 #193 8:55AM

What if Walt never dreamed of Disneyland? What would your life be like? What would the world be like? Get Book Two of the VOYAGEERS Saga - The Great Storyteller - on Amazon. Buy the Paperback and get the Kindle version FREE! 

Thank you Admin! This book is a great read. I recommend it to anyone who is a Disney fan. Can't wait for the next one! - grumpypapa  1973.0 #58 8:38PM
Thank you for reading! - Admin  6:26PM
I love the cover of this!  I just started reading it this morning.  - MeridaFan  3248.6 #27 1:25PM
Thank you! We put a lot of work into that cover to get it just right. - Admin  2:00PM
I wish the guy still looked like philliprocks - SpiritOfAdventure  989.2 #145 11:08AM
Love the book, I'm ready for the next one! Hurry! - Popcorn  4.5 #17542 8:14PM

Here are the Weekly Top 10 TRIVILATOR Players. Find people to play here. Play Disneyland Trivia with your friends on iOS. Play on any device with our new web version here.

1. DisneyMakesMeSmile
50

2. Goofytom
44

3. DisneylandOrBust
21

4. richiii3
9

5. otilegna
5

6. LindseyanaJones
3

7. ames013
3

8. Shawnalynne
1

9. MissAcroBRAT
1

10. angelaprkns
1

 

What the! I made a top 10 list! I lose like half my games but at least I play. Atora should know, she made a fool of me. What was it 28 to 12? - philliprocks  783.3 #193 6:51PM
Ouch! She's pretty tough to beat. - sawman911  657.3 #248 10:19PM
Ready for a rematch? 😈 - Atora  1964.3 #59 5:49PM
If I say yes, I'm lying. If I say no I'm a sissy  - philliprocks   783.3 #193 7:46PM
Hahahaha!  - apesandmonkeys  7551.0 #4 6:51PM
Woo woo! Look at you! - BellesLibrary  368.6 #530 3:36PM
You're just the 9th loser! Loser - SnoopMousyMouse  40.9 #0 1:11PM
And you're a sissy anyway - SnoopMousyMouse  40.9 #0 1:11PM
I smell a recount due to dangling chads @philliprocks⚠ - MickeyLumboCM  595.1 #285 7:06PM
Wow congrats Phillip! You're moving on up!  - BellesLibrary  368.6 #530 5:41PM
Annnnnnnnnd.... ur gone - SpiritOfAdventure  989.2 #145 11:24PM
Whaaaaaa??? I'm on The List! I...... I feel so honored! I don't know what to say! Id like to thanks my parents for.... Lol jk. Kind of shocked. I usually lose. - BellesLibrary  368.6 #530 11:34PM
Love playing! - DisneyMakesMeSmile  187.8 #2004 12:45PM
I just downloaded this game and I must say I am a bit addicted! :) anyone feel free to play me, I am always up to a challenge! And can anyone explain to me how to obtain credits by playing? Do we just sign in and play and that's it?  - LindseyanaJones  58.2 #4080 7:12PM

Download VOYAGEERS to your device today! Discover the VOYAGEERS Society, and the magical Main Street Realm in this action packed adventure for kids of ALL ages! Also available on iBooks and Kobo. Follow the VOYAGEERS on Facebook for more info and behind the scenes exclusives.

Got it! More than halfway thru it! It's a lot of fun!!!πŸ‘πŸ‘βœ¨βœ¨ - TinkerSchelle  1162.5 #113 10:53PM
I got it for my Kindle yesterday, but haven't started reading it yet. It's hard to wait, but I'm saving it for the train commute when I go back to work in a week.  - grumpypapa  1973.0 #58 9:56PM
Thank you! - Admin  3:41PM
Like normal I am late to the party. Reading it now - Tealtownfan  852.2 #172 3:13PM
I can't wait for the next one to come out this week. - arianwenmcb  212.3 #1694 6:57PM

Read Episode One of Deadliest Cast Member FREE on Amazon and iTunes!

I downloaded this before a very long road trip, and it kept me entertained the whole time (well, except when I was taking my turn at the wheel, safety first!).  - Geekery  401.5 #473 10:21PM
Thanks! I'm glad you liked it! - Admin  10:46AM
Where can I find the book please?  - sarahsanch  6.8 #11822 1:03PM
Just got it! Can't stop reading it. I am already starting chaper 16. Love how all the details of DL are woven into the story. - Tiggerific  330.2 #645 4:20PM
Just bought the complete Season 1 series on my Kindle.  A bargain for $5.99 (and I love that they're individual short stories...perfect airplane and pool reading!). - msdizmaui  622.0 #269 5:21PM
just finished now i can't wait for season two ! - draven898  256.9 #1141 3:13PM

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Cool admin. Hope I do better than the first one. Hope people that enter will be ready to play and the tournament moves along better - Goofytom  736.2 #209 6:41PM
I will announce the December tournament date this week. - Admin 11:58PM
Can't wait! - sawman911  657.3 #248 6:30PM
Sounds fun!! - HappyPrincess  25.0 #5619 10:48AM
I have the app so if anyone wants to play a game with me :-) - nelcamp90  29.3 #5244 7:12PM
Just invited you to play - Goofytom  736.2 #209 1:21PM

unFORECAST (BETA) is here! Top MouseWaiters giving you the rundown of what's happening at the Disneyland Resort. Automated crowd prediction calendars are worthless--the UNFORECAST is where it's at!

Update for the week of Monday, August 25th:

Park hours: DL (9am-10pm weekdays, 9am-12am weekends); DCA (9am-9pm weekdays, 9am-10pm weekends). Since the parks are closing earlier during the week, Fantasmic will only be shown Friday-Sunday, World of Color will be shown at 9pm and the "Magical!" fireworks will be shown at 9:25pm daily (weather permitting).

FYI: this is a last full week to participate in "Legends of Frontierland" in Frontierland as it concludes on Monday, September 1st. Also, the Adventure Trading Company's last day in the jungle will be Monday, August 25 and will move onto a new adventure, so make sure to catch them!

unForecast Crowd Prediction: Expect it to be quiet to moderately busy this week as many schools go back this week, but there's also still quite a few people getting their end of summer vacation in at the Resort before school starts after Labor Day for them. But, reminder that this weekend is the Disneyland Half Marathon, so expect crowds to pick up Thursday and/or Friday as runners and their families come in for this weekend's events. And make sure to keep an eye out for any road closures late Saturday night to mid Sunday morning if you are coming to the Resort this coming weekend!

Have a great week! - BaseballMickey_CM Aug 25, 2014 12:00AM
July was arguably one of the slowest months of the year (some say the Sunday on Independence Day Weekend was the slowest day of the year). However, we saw crowd levels rise Sat Aug 2, and they've been steady through today (Aug 5). With the Socal passes coming good Aug 18, we should see good crowds throughout the end of the month.  - Admin Aug 5, 2014 2:23PM
New "Music of Nashville" event coming to the Big Thunder Ranch Jamboree running on weekends, starting on July 18. To read more info: click here - BaseballMickey_CM Jul 9, 2014 11:04AM
So far this summer, Saturdays have been the quietest days of the week due to the Annual Passholder block outs. Today, wait times weren't too bad in both parks, with crowd indexes hovering around 60-70 at DL and 50-60 in DCA.  - BaseballMickey_CM Jun 28, 2014 11:24PM



We have always noticed that Saturdays are better than Sundays! We always come on the weekend and say we want to leave at dinner time on Sunday, but always leave by 11-12 because there are so many people. We love Saturday!! - 1Princess3Princes  351.1 #574 5:39PM
I agree. I think it has to do with most passes being blocked - PoohSizedGuy  18.5 #6497 11:53PM
I agree with BaseballMickey_CM.  Saturdays are the lightest days when all other passes are blocked out.  The 4th may be crowded because of the holiday, but I'll take that over a crazy Sunday any day. - potatohead25  533.7 #324 2:55PM
My solo visit last Saurday was the lightest crowd I remember in a long time, especially during the Summer! - grumpypapa  1973.0 #58 4:52PM
I agree @grumpypapa, last Sat. was as uncrowded as I've seen it in a long while! Besides the AP block outs, it might also be that people were waiting to visit until they were off work/school over July 4th weekend. - debbiev  771.9 #197 10:23PM
Saturdays, mornings during mon-Fridays, peak heat are low ride times and low crowds. IMOπŸ˜‰ - Plumiegirl  7791.6 #3 10:24AM
I love these weekly updates! Keep doing it! - DsnyPrincessMommy  49.8 #4298 9:54AM


 
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I wish Disney would install a Distributed Antenna System throughout the parks.   It would make all the cell phones work so much better.     - MikeyMouse  88.8 #3510 7:32PM
I am so sad mine wouldn't post while in the park. : ( - thankyouwalt  41.7 #4575 8:51PM
Really? What problem did u encounter? If the parks are very full going into your settings and enable LTE brings you to lower 4g or 3G and less people are on it. That sometimes help. Churro wasn't letting her telling her see needs to prove she was there. I'm sure if you tell us, we can help you out  - MarshaMouse  3760.4 #24 4:34PM
That is exactly what mine said and that I also needed to turn on my WiFi. It's ok. Gives me something to look forward to on my next visit.  - thankyouwalt  41.7 #4575 9:01PM
Mine started to work @marshamouse and then on Wed I could no longer. It would never register the new wait times I'd post - HandMeAChurroImmaFaint  3911.4 #23 9:44PM
True. I love inputting times but I've learned to enjoy the people around me first, wait times second. Well if you need help let us know  - MarshaMouse  3760.4 #24 11:46PM

Our Favorite Things: This is a list of the top things added to our popular ToDo List feature inside the app (based on the number of times added to a ToDo List):

Popular Restaurants : 1. Big Thunder Ranch BBQ
2. Blue Bayou 31 rue royal
3. Tiki Juice Bar

Popular Attractions :1. Pirates of the Caribbean
2. Indiana Jones Adventure 46"
3. Haunted Mansion REOPENS SEPT 12


New Orleans Square attractions are best.  - CM_Shadowgamer  2321.5 #46 7:23PM
 I agree,for life - bonedaddy909  1089.1 #132 6:56AM
Completely agree!!!       - adisneyfamily  680.4 #232 10:23AM
Gotta love NOS!    - grumpypapa  1973.0 #58 4:12AM
LOVE the mansion stickers - WishIWereThere  246.7 #1248 9:32AM
Uh, Captain EO better be on there when it comes back! πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ - MrsSchnooks  2674.5 #36 11:04AM
Nonononoono!!!!!  I want a water attraction like that Monsanto thing where we turn small and a fish eye is staring at us!!!!! - secretagentangel  1239.0 #100 4:01PM
I love you and you let me stay in your castle so I have no comment. LOL - MrsSchnooks  2674.5 #36 10:07PM
That was so nice!!!  We must upgrade your suites!!!! - secretagentangel  1239.0 #100 10:35AM
@MrsSchnooks: I love EO too...anything MJ! Are they bringing it back? - 7mouskedoodles  348.3 #588 9:22PM
I agree secretagentangel   I want to turn small again too! - tinkertonnie  162.5 #2365 2:25PM

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