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Jul 6, 2011 9:44 AM  Disneyland Talk Land
i just wanna put it out there that people r ssoo cool at Dland my hubby and i were waiting in line at str and someone came up to us and gave us a fastpass !!!! if thats happen to u pls post when and what ride ???????? : )

Well that didn't happen to us but we were in line for autopia once and saw fast passes on the ground score !!!! - mommy_likes_minnie  270.8 #1078 9:46AM
One time I was getting FPs for Space and there were 2 for Indy on top of the machine that were good for that time! Was that any of you MWs who left them?? - JessicaRabbit33  670.3 #264 9:52AM
Boyfriend and I were going to soaring and debating if we were going to standby for it and saw that FP were out and a couple came to us with FP and we couldn't thank them enough!!!! My first experience of a RAK, now I do it if I can, especially on rides my son won't get on like SM. - MarshaMouse  4214.4 #26 9:54AM
Last time we were at the park kingdomkeybearer and I were in the extremely long line to get Grizzly Fastpasses when someone came up and gave us 2 we could use right then. It was awesome :) people are so nice sometimes. - HisKingdomHeart  10.0 #10009 9:54AM
We love to give away the FPs we are not going to use, but I can't remember ever receiving them. - PrincessDuckie  817.8 #205 9:54AM
It's never happened to me but if I'm not going to use FP I usually give them to random people or leave them on top of trash can by mickey and friends escolator. - JenInWonderland  1025.8 #165 9:57AM
We also love giving FPs away as we are leaving. I love seeing the look on someones face when you give them an FP for ST or Space as they are arriving at 7pm! I think I found those Indy passes through good Karma from giving so may away lol! - JessicaRabbit33  670.3 #264 9:58AM
It wasn't me this time but I do that all the time. I try to find out of towners.:) congrats! - SorcererMky  300.7 #843 10:15AM
I remember this one time my girlfriend and i were at Flynns arcade and as we were walking out this nice lady approaches us and gives us 2 FP for the TOT - PirateDoll  273.7 #1046 10:20AM
A couple years ago I gave away 6 fp for Indy. A day later a guy gave me 12 fp for Space Mtn and it turns out my group met up with another group later that day and we had exactly 12 people. I'm a firm believer in karma and ever since then I always randomly select people to give extra fast passes. I really like giving them to people who are looking at the wait time and deciding whether or not to wait in line. - Bonedaddy  22.9 #6305 11:14AM
If I don't need my FPes I'll give them away, I've tried to give a pin to someone but they wouldn't take it - lisaw  139.1 #2803 11:18AM
That happened to us on my husbands birthday!! Someone came up and gave them to my son and him. That's their must ride dad/son ride so it meant so much to us!!! It was very special - CaliDawn  23.6 #6215 11:20AM
We've never just been handed FP, but if we have extras we will give them to someone - IHEARTSIMBA50  495.0 #396 11:20AM
I always give my extra fastpasses away- it's funny because most people think they expire and don't want to take them! - krismouse  174.0 #2245 11:21AM
This guy actually walked up to me and asked if I had 6 people in my group? I did and he handed me one of the choice FP. It made my day๎Œฎ - Storybrooke  681.4 #254 11:22AM
We have given extras away to people. Like krismouse we have had some look at us funny but they always thank us. @bonedaddy that has happened to us at times too where we gave some away and something good ended up back our way but its usually the same day. But its always fun to give the extra FPs away if we have them so someone else can enjoy. - TheRealEvilQueen  25.1 #6014 11:27AM
We've been given a few and have given away a few. One time was odd...we found a woman and her child standing around SM and the child was upset because he really wanted to go. I handed them the tix, and the woman took them ...then said "Thanks alot! I didn't want to go on this and now I have to!" - Gia  802.0 #208 11:32AM
We always give our FP's away if we're not going to use them but we have never been given any. - poorun4tunatesoul  79.9 #3793 11:34AM
When I don't find any MWrs I offer random folks in the regular to go with us on the GAC pass. People are so thankful and it's fun - Plumiegirl  8860.3 #3 11:42AM
I was having a really bad day so my boyfriend took me to Disneyland to cheer me up. We got in line for star tours cause we hadn't been on it yet and I had really been wanting to. Some lady walked up and handed me two fast passes to star tours saying that shes leaving the park and to take them. It really made my day. - niickayy  23.3 #6254 12:18PM
Two years ago my oldest son wanted to do the Jedi Training so badly, but for 2 shows in a row he wasn't picked. A lady saw how sad he looked and gave us her son's poster (her son had been picked) and said to use it at the next show and he would be picked. I thanked her, thought "we'll see" and wouldn't you know it...he was picked (first one) the next time. That made his day!! We then gave the poster to another kid that wasn't picked to use at the following show. :) - ToshiStation  54.4 #4374 12:18PM
My little brother and I were walking to space mountain and this random guy hands us 4 fp's. We were stoked! Oh and get this we get off space mountain and at the exit we get offered 4 more fp's by a kind stranger. :D we rode space mountain 4 times in one hour thanks to them!! - zephergirlnat  85.4 #3690 12:22PM
A few months ago, while contemplating on if we had time to stand in line for 45 minutes for Soaring Over California, a couple walked up to us and gave us two FPs to use right away. That was an amazing RAK. Thank you nice people!!!! - TinkKim  189.4 #2036 12:43PM
When I went for my birthday with 2 of my cousins and 2 of my friends, we didn't have enough time to go on another ride, and a man overheard us talking about which rides we might be able to get on before we leave. He came up to us and said he and his wife got stuck on Indiana Jones and they were going to leave, and gave us one of those 6 person fast pass things for any of the rides :D - acpowers13  148.8 #2636 12:51PM
When ever I find fastpasses on the ground or someone plans not to use them, I try to find someone who wants them. Like a few nights ago, I had 3 FP for Splash. Couldn't find anyone :( - BaseballMickey_CM  6970.5 #9 12:53PM

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I agree. I think it has to do with most passes being blocked - PoohSizedGuy  18.5 #7011 11:53PM
I love these posts!  I do have a question/request/suggestion...is there a way to only show the 3-4 most recent posts?  It's a lot to scroll through. @@Admin - TiggersAndTinks  124.6 #3018 5:08AM
I second this. The info is great to have, but it's too long.  - 1HitchhikingGhost  228.2 #1552 5:04PM
Thanks for these updates. I love them!  - Dizkid  364.2 #581 6:07PM
It's Dance the Magic this weekend-always adds to the crowds too!!! - TinkerSchelle  1524.1 #99 8:23PM
What is dance the magic?? - bks4lou  183.6 #2119 4:40PM
Dance studios sign up and dancers come and do a little "pre-parade" along the route. It's cute ;) - TinkerSchelle  1524.1 #99 1:05PM
@bks4lou sorry-I just saw this question ;) - TinkerSchelle  1524.1 #99 1:06PM
thank you. No worries. I just figured out how to find my old comments to see replies :)  - bks4lou  183.6 #2119 8:21PM
I'll sport my hotpants.  - Butterlina  1525.4 #98 11:54PM
This is always fun - MickeyLumboCM  1011.8 #169 4:21AM
we went when I was younger, had a BLAST! - Malefitiff  8.9 #10744 4:03PM

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