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April 4, 2011 6:08 PM
PLEASE READ IF YOU ARE ENTERING WAIT TIMES: First, thank you for entering them, each wait time entered helps our real-time accuracy and improves the algorithm. I really appreciate everyone who takes the time to enter wait times because they are very important to MouseWait and the entire community. Effective immediately, please DO NOT enter wait times from the wait board on Main Street - this board is historically inaccurate and is not updated enough to show real-time wait times. In many cases, MouseWait will display the correct wait time, then a time is entered from the wait board that is wrong or outdated. We do not consider the wait board to be accurate and this has been verified by several veteran MWs. ALSO I am catching a lot of people piggybacking times - this is when you simply enter the time (or close to the time) that is currently showing in MW WITHOUT observing the actual wait time of the attraction. We have several flags that go off in our system when this happens - sometimes I ban right away, and other times I wait to get more proof. When I ban a device for piggybacking I will not release the ban. Piggybacking abuses our wait times and it tampers with our MouseRank system. Please only enter times that you have observed first hand. THANK YOU!
- Mrsblue
692.4 #144 6:24PM
An admin smack down! Love it! - NascarDave
220.2 #1352 6:41PM
Even better if you can verify the wait time yourself by waiting in line! - bluefairy
627.0 #174 6:46PM
Question for you... when entering times, should you use the time that is listed at the entrance of the ride or actual time we waited for the ride? We are new to this and want to make sure we do this properly. Thanks! - jennjillo7
15.5 #5587 6:48PM
If you wait in the line it gives a more accurate wait time for other MWers - Evangeline
196.3 #1678 6:49PM
Is there was a way we could verify that the time is correct if the wait time is the same but the time stamp is an hour or two old. Is that considered piggybacking? - SammyGirl
5.1 #10256 6:51PM
I usually do both. Enter the time on the sign then time the wait. - CravingDisney
150.1 #2289 6:51PM
Either is fine, but if you happen to be in line, it doesn't hurt to time it yourself since sometimes the sign is wrong. - bluefairy
627.0 #174 6:52PM
I usually set my stopwatch when we get in the line and stop it when we get on. But sometimes if we I am not riding that ride I ask a CM at the entrance. - Mrsblue
692.4 #144 6:54PM
Thanks for the info! - jennjillo7
15.5 #5587 6:56PM
Admin, I apologize for entering times off of the board. I was never told that I couldn't do that, and so I entered them. I now know and it won't happen again. - ekwhite
463.3 #262 7:03PM
@ekwhite - No, definitely don't worry about it, I just announced tonight that we weren't going to allow that anymore, it was never a rule before tonight so you didn't do anything wrong. Piggybacking has been a rule for a long time though and is a deliberate attempt to game the system. However, entering off the wait board is totally different, I finally had to disallow it because of how it was affecting times - so don't worry about it you did nothing wrong! - Admin
7:07PM
Haha ..!! - handydaddy
25.4 #4622 7:09PM
@jenn You can actually enter both of those, the actual wait in line is always the best, but the time on the sign is definitely ok too, since that is what most people go by to figure out if they are going on or not. - Admin
7:11PM
@sammy that is a good question - that is NOT considered piggybacking if you observed the time yourself. So if Pirates is showing 10min in MW, and then you go by and it is 10min, definitely put that time in to give us an updated stamp. Piggybacking is when someone is sitting on a bench entering all or even some of the times that currently show on the wait time list - it is not someone accidentally putting in a wrong time, I would never ban for that, piggybacking is intentional - Admin
7:16PM
zomg! HUGE THANK YOU TO YA Admin for giving me an answer to a question I've been trying to get to the bottom of since joining MW! :D hooray! - MinnieYooHoo
219.3 #1361 7:25PM
you just answered my question (I think). I was on CS the other day and the wait time posted was 20 min. When i got on to boarding it was 20 minutes so I enter that. Hope that doesn't break any rules - sickboy
524.0 #221 7:30PM
Cool. Thanks for the reminder! - disney42dude(CM)
521.7 #222 7:34PM
Sammy that was a question I always had and I was afraid to enter in times if the time stamp was within 30 min of me getting there. Admin thank you very much for clearing that up for us! - KissDclown
1088.1 #76 7:34PM
So Mr. blue and I shouldn't both enter when we ride an attraction? Is that piggybacking - Mrsblue
692.4 #144 7:35PM
Thanks for the clarification admin. I was scared I was going to get banned after I think my one and only time update was the same as before. - Chadco
299.0 #614 7:37PM
I use a GAC pass so for example I go on the Matterhorn and it takes me 20min but today the regular line was wrapped around the backside. I estimated the time to be 45 min which was the previous time. This could look like piggybacking but I had a visual. - Plumiegirl
3322.0 #10 7:55PM
@sickboy that is fine because you are reporting times that you observed in person @kissdclown it is always better to have a current timestamp because that shows real-time info to people looking at the list @mrsblue you are doing it right, you are both observing the actual time, that is not piggybacking - piggybacking is intentional - it is when you have no clue what the wait time is, you are just entering what is on the MW list to gain MR. @chadco no prob! Legitimate members will not get banned, it is pretty easy for me to tell based on history/archives when someone is gaming the system - Admin
7:56PM
Okay just making sure! - Mrsblue
692.4 #144 7:57PM
Yes sir. . It's easy to see if the time are off a lot q are visible, Indy can be diffacutlt cause the q can be quit long. Walk up and check it out, ask a CM what the real wait time is, many of them have worked there long enough to tell you if it's off or not. - GoofyJoe
1864.1 #41 8:10PM
Thanks admin!! Just making sure I'm following the rules - sickboy
524.0 #221 8:25PM
This thread is very helpful. I was also wondering about entering times that were the same as the previous times just updated timestamp. Thank you for clearing it up for me. - sharkbait
423.3 #299 8:35PM
thanks to all who take the time to make mousewait so cool - Dizkid
284.2 #703 8:38PM
When we were walking around the park on Saturday posting wait times we kept noticing wrong wait times were being posted, it get frustrating when your trying to enter correct times and someone is entering wrong times. So thanks Admin for everything. - Sonja
5727.4 #3 8:42PM
Also Coaster mentioned that recently after he would close the Columbia and Mark Twain for the day, someone was reopening them. If a ride is closed don't open it unless you are sure it is open. - Mrsblue
692.4 #144 8:46PM
Slip of the finger! Sorry Goofy Joe I meant ATTRACTION! - Mrsblue
692.4 #144 8:48PM
Thank you Admin, this clears up so much confusion! I was scared to enter wait times because I wasn't sure what the definition of piggybacking really was. - Tangled
11.2 #6416 9:24PM
Not cool whoever did that- - maddymouskateer
9.9 #6796 9:28PM
So just to make sure im clear..if I walk up to BTM and the board at the ride says 30 min its ok to put that in..if I decide to then go on BTM and wait in line for 25 min it's then ok to put in 25 min - pridegirl
377.2 #361 9:30PM
So just to make sure im clear..if I walk up to BTM and the board at the ride says 30 min its ok to put that in..if I decide to then go on BTM and wait in line for 25 min it's then ok to put in 25 min - pridegirl
377.2 #361 9:35PM
Thanks Mrs blue for ur question, its the same one sharkbait and I were just discussing. Glad to have it cleared up. I never post times cause he does and I didn't wanna get in trouble - mistressgracey
36.8 #4102 9:46PM
@pridegirl - yes enter the time on the sign in front of Big Thunder, then if the actual wait is 25min enter that - Admin
10:04PM
I always worried that legitimate people would be afraid to enter times due to the rules - just know that if your intention is to enter accurate times you will not get banned. I have seen a lot of people make legitimate mistakes and I would never ban for that. I look for patterns from users who are intentionally trying to game the system to get a higher rank - it is only a matter of time before they get banned. - Admin
10:10PM
Thanks so much for the clarification!! - pridegirl
377.2 #361 10:18PM
Thanks Admin! - LBChica
1499.9 #51 10:23PM
:) We need the Smack Down... I'm so ready for the Family Reunion Part 2.... - Disneybaldie
313.3 #543 12:09AM
Thanks Admin for the clerification!!! Hopefully one day in the near future I will be able to walk through the gates and enter a wait time finally;-))!!! Trying to achieve a high MWRank by posts and comments only takes a long time!!!! LoL! - WaltSentMe
316.5 #534 10:07AM
Just a reminder not to use the Wait Board when entering wait times. Thanks - Coaster
9128.8 #1 10:19AM
Admin, I sent an email to Support last night & I know it takes time to read through all the stuff you get. I tried posting a wait time for Astro Blasters (actual standing in line) and got the dreaded message that my device was blocked. I have only posted actual standing line wait times although I think when I first started posting, may have inadvertently closed a ride in my attempt at posting an actual zero wait (walk on to the ride). Nothing sketchy about my posts. Can I pleeeeze be unblocked? I have never posted wait times from the Main Street board and I am not one that is seeking to up my MW rank by gaming anyone. Thanks. - weaver941
403.9 #323 11:11AM
Admin would not ban you for closing a ride accidentally. - Mrsblue
692.4 #144 11:17AM
:) - GoofyJoe
1864.1 #41 12:40PM
Thanks, MrsBlue. I didn't think so, but I know entering times is such a sensitive thing and when I saw I was blocked, that was the only thing I could think of. Hope I get unblocked! - weaver941
403.9 #323 1:14PM
I figured the GPS stamped where the times were entered. It's real tough for the times I have visited the park, the service is so sketchy, I can't report the times. Guess I'm not standing in a good G3 spot. - Mouse92im
254.9 #958 1:19PM
Thanks for the clarification on posting wait times! I thought I was doing it wrong in Feb. because the app kept crashing every time I tried to post a time. Hopefully it'll work for me next weekend. - giddy4disney
145.2 #2360 1:25PM
@weaver - I don't think your device is banned sometimes if the phone loses connection it will give that message in error - also I didn't get an email from you did you send it to the support email? - Admin
3:01PM
- vegasbrat
403.8 #324 9:37PM
Hi Admin. I used the support link to send the email. Maybe my phone was on the fritz! I will try again next time I'm @ the park. I got a free pass from jury duty tomorrow, I might try to go after dropping the kids off @ school to test it out. Thanks for responding! - weaver941
403.9 #323 9:41PM
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